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theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
Except you know... it clearly isn't correct.

The key word there is "Way things are normally estimated".

In general the "way things are normally estimated" are done so at face value without any actual digging into effects.

It's like how the GAO reports that by the way it's traditionally reported the New Healthcare law will save money, though they admit it's really unlikely most if any of those savings will actually reach fruition.

Oh, right, the conspiracy angle. How could I forget?

Let's not forget that the "researchers" themselves note limitations in their own conclusions and that very small discrepancies could result in major differences in their numbers.

Or how it isn't peer reviewed. Or..wait, do I need to continue?

I would note that the Spanish Socialist government who implemented the changes are blaming the green jobs for their economic problems.  It's literally nobody but the far left who is supporting what you say.  Looking for a better link because while this was a big story, the biggest google results are probably unsurprisingly from more rightwing leaning sources... and honestly it's hard to find since Spain had all kinds of green job initatives, and well... they've all failed pretty hard.

 

ah conspiracy angle again. So easy to fall back to...and yet no other studies back it up. But that's just coincidental isn't it...or maybe more conspiracy?

OK, that angle isn't working, source the other things you're saying, show me "they've all failed pretty hard". Go.

Dude, your the conspiracy theorist.  The studies back it up costing jobs... and both sides of government admit it to be so, and that it was a failure.

So uh... hwow is that a conspiracy?

Instead your backing one pro green jobs propganda study...

The limitations in the King Carlos study was how job losses could be BIGGER.  Not smaller...

 

The premiums paid for solar, biomass, wave and wind power - - which are charged to consumers in their bills -- translated into a $774,000 cost for each Spanish “green job” created since 2000, said Gabriel Calzada, an economics professor at the university and author of the report.

“The loss of jobs could be greater if you account for the amount of lost industry that moves out of the country due to higher energy prices,” he said in an interview.

Spain’s Acerinox SA, the nation’s largest stainless-steel producer, blamed domestic energy costs for deciding to expand in South Africa and the U.S., according to the study.

 

The study limitations HURT your case, not help it.