Malstrom equates 3D Mario with poison

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RolStoppable said:

Walkthrublazer3 said:

What do you mean 3D Mario spawns virtually nothing!

Super Mario 64 revolutionized 3D gaming. It's literally is one of the most influential videos games ever created. It spawned a ton of great games such as.

1. Banjo and Kazooie, Banjo Tooie

2. Donkey Kong 64

3. Ocarina of Time

4. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark

5. Jet Force Gemini and Conkur's bad fur day

You can't honeslty tell me that all these games are bad.

All 3D gaming owes gratitude to Mario 64.

Just like Super Mario Bros layed the foundation of how to make a video game, Mario 64 layed the foundation on how to make a 3D game. While it's true none of the newer 3D Mario games were as influential as Mario 64, neither are the newest 2d Mario games. In fact I would say that 3D Mario's are more innovative and creative. NSMB and NSBMW are great games that are based mostly off nostalgia and borrow most of thier ideas from the past games.

But 3D Mario games obviously don't borrow most of their ideas from past games and bank on nostalgia, right? Always these double standards, even after Super Mario 3D Land just came out and desperately tried to be like Super Mario Bros.

NSMB brought Donkey Kong Country back. That alone is worth more than 3D Mario did in the last decade. It's just unfortunate that a lot of companies thought that NSMB is just a game that banks on nostalgia, so they didn't update their new games appropriately. Super Mario Bros. evolved while games like Mega Man 9 and 10 remained stuck in the past.

EDIT: Saw your other post. This isn't about one series that needs to go. Co-existence is very much possible. However, the current priorities are wrong. Super Mario Bros. must get AAA treatment and release first on every Nintendo system, because it is verifiably much more important than 3D Mario ever was and will be.

From an economical point of view, yes - but 2D Mario isn't pushing creative thinking in any way. Just look at NSMBW and Galaxy. Galaxy really plays with the physics in a way none of the 2D marios ever has. Now, I love me all kinds of Mario - but to say that 3D Mario isn't important is just... meh... I don't know.