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Adinnieken on 20 April 2012
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superchunk said:
Adinnieken said:
superchunk said:
Adinnieken said:

No, you aren't the first person to have suggested this.  I know I said as much back before the Xperia Play was released and I'm sure others have said it as well. 

THere's a difference of suggesting a item like Play could be awesome when it was first mentioned, something I also was hoping for, to stating Vita should absolutely not exist in its current form but should be a smartphone... and doing it on the exact same day.

No, what was said was what the PSP2 should have been.  Not only has it been said before either the Xperia Play was released, but after the PS Vita was announced.   It never made any sense to build two different mobile gaming devices, fracture your market, and subject one device to essentially die.  Had Sony produced two models of the Xperia Play based on the PS Vita hardware, they could have had a non-phone, WI-FI only device and a 3G Smartphone device.

I've also stated this should be Microsoft's approach, if the enter the mobile gaming scene with more than smartphone gaming intentions.   

Saying it on the same day a story about the same subject gets published is meaningless in 2012 because its been talked about at length in 2011 and 2010.  The likelihood is that even your train of thought had been influenced by the opinions of others that came before you.  The fact that you and a CNet writer have come to a similar conclusion after both released and both are doing poorly just means you're both late to the party. 

Welcome, btw.

What you thought was your original idea was not original and has been said long before by others.

ok then, show me where people said, before Vita was announced, that sony should not build another dedicated console and instead should focus on a full playstation phone. I know I remember rumors of 'playstation phone' when Play was first being launched, but that's not the same thing as I mentioned above. Also, none of that talk said Sony should not put out another dedicated console either.

The next generation of consoles won't be dedicated gaming console.  This generation is no longer about dedicated gaming consoles for that matter.  Microsoft and Sony are actively competing in the entertainment sphere.  Both want to be able to provide consumers (not just gamers) with entertainment options well beyond gaming.  Microsoft is the one most visably doing this, but Sony certainly has some chops in the game.  Neither company will give up on this, it would be foolish for them to do so.  With millions of people abandoning cable and satellite for Internet-based services, both Microsoft and Sony are poised to make millions as set-top boxes for a plethora of media options.  No one is abandoning that.

Is there an article that I can point to that says anyone suggested Sony should abandon the PS3 or any future gaming console and move solely to mobile gaming?  No, because it's a ridiculous idea.  Sony has a music library, Sony has a movie library, Sony has a game library, Sony has a network service, and Sony has hardware like Blu-Ray.  For Sony to abandon the family room by abandoning a console rather than developing it into something more, would be foolish. 

I'm not a fan of Sony, I have no love for Sony, but even I can see with all the entertainment assets that company has, you don't abandon the family room.  Like Microsoft has done, you build and you keep on building until you achieve the success you ultimately want.  The difference between Microsoft and Sony however, is that Microsoft has a much more unified vision of where the company is going.  Kazuo Hirai really hasn't shown a unified vision yet for Sony; how does he plan to bring Sony's products and services together into one company moving forward together rather than each acting individually?

I whole-heartedly agree that Sony should have done things differently with the Xperia Play and PS Vita.  The guts of the PS Vita should have been packaged in a mobile phone.  That would have brought more convergence and would have put Sony on the forefront of mobile gaming, rather than trying to play catch-up with Nintendo with the 3DS or acting as an also ran in the smartphone market.  However, I don't believe mobile gaming will overtake consoles.  Ideally they compliment each other.  Sony's problem is not the PS3, it's their lack of a unified vision that moves the company forward.  Rather different businesses acting in concert like a navy, they are ships plying the waters alone each attacking their own targets.  Too much is to be gained in the family room, and I think Kaz knows that.