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happydolphin said:
tonymarraffa said:
Yes they defiantly were very successful and while I'm mostly happy with the the 360, the original Xbox was my most played last gen aside from the Dreamcast. Really though where are my Crimson Skies, Jade Empires, Blinx, Conkers, Shenmues, Jet Grind Radios, Panzer Dragoons, SWKOTORs, Voodo Vinces, Rallisport Challenges, Midtown Madnesses, Motocross Madnesses, Quantum Redshifts, Blood Wakes, Brute Forces, N.U.D.Ess MechAssaults,Kakuto Chojins, Phantom Dusts, Tao Fengs, Torks etc? I know all were not hits but no sequels to any of these is kinda dissapointing.

Very nice pun. I like it.

@D21, that was an impressive post. All players in the industry brought good and brought bad with them. It seems microsoft brought the least evil, but to be honest I'm not a fan of Microsoft's PC-ization of console software due to xyz. Then again more variety is good, as long as it doesn't reduce effort or offerings on traditional console-type experiences.

And even though Halil got blasted, I'm glad he brought it up because I kind of had that construct too in my mind, so I'm glad you guys deconstructed it.

Not to derail the thread, but in my eyes, the successes this gen in my eyes, in terms of achievement were:

360

Wii

PS3

In that order. Wii was a smashing success, but didn't reach its full potential due to one or two failings in foresight (the impact of HD games and the importance of cross-platform 3rd party games this gen). The PS3 had such a rough start and, despite an impressive catchup, they fell so short of expectations. The 360 is the most fulfilling success for the 3 manufacturers in my view, and with the integration of Kinect, a better image (great games, slim console model) they are ready for gen 8 and in a very strong position. I'm mostly worried about Sony for gen8.

I would put the Wii ahead of the 360. The only area where I would say Nintendo failed was with 3rd parties, but even then they still have a great relationship with all of the main Japanese 3rd party devs, especially when it comes to handhelds.

Most of the shortcomings you listed like the lack of HD are all down to customer satisfaction, if this list was about how successful the companies have been in terms of customer satisfaction it would be upside down for me.

In terms of business, the Wii has been a phenomenal success. It has sold the most units, it has the highest profit margins, sales have made the biggest improvement over last gen and it has made the most money from both hardware and software.