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so you think the drop would have stopped exactly at the point where the iraq war started without that war? i don't say he would have dropped to 30% or so but exactly at that point? i think he could have lost 5% more to get maybe below the 50% (not exactly sure where the graph is there with all those dots^^). but few percent here or there, two years after that he was still at 51% and that's all i was talking about, not where he was in 2008 or so.