hkKAZE said:
Plezbo said:
bouzane said:
The Korean War was ended by the threat of nuclear force, hardly the responsible use of the American nuclear arsenal. Also, the only reason that the US dropped atomic bombs on Japan was to prevent the Soviet invasion. This simply prevented Russia from establishing another Red State in order to give America a better position in the looming Cold War. Even though the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ended the war there is no way to justify targeting civilian populations when the same effect could have been achieved by striking locations of military importance. |
This is just how war was fought back then. Ask China if they liked how entire cities and villages were murdered by the Japanese. We could have conventionally bombed Japan, but the results would have been no better. And the nukes were not to keep the Soviets from invading, they were to stop us from having to invade. Estimates are that we would have lost 1 million soldiers invading Japan and subduing the populace. Due to the mass Suicides on Saipan and Guam, we werent't even sure if there would be a Japanese nation left if we invaded and had to fight til the last man standing. The Nukes, while terrible, ended up saving millions of lives at the cost of several hundred thousand. If this seems callous, war is horrible, Japan brought that war upon itself by invading sovereign nations and attacking US land.
The fact is that we have a nuclear arsenal, and it is here to stay. If we got rid of all of our nuclear weapons, the North Koreas and Irans of the world could hold everyone hostage with a single bomb. North Korea understands now that if it uses nuclear weapons it is doomed. They keep their small supply because they are paranoid and backward and believe it is the only thing keeping America and SK from invading.
Your worldview is idealist, and you should be proud of it, never lose that. Unfortunately it is also very naive.
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how can you not regret dropping nukes on japan. btw idk if you know but you didnt meantion the birth defects still occuring today due to radiation. also its not true that it was the last choice, japan was willing to surrender with conditions - its just that the americans chose a miltary choice and not a diplomatic one.
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Not actually true if you do a bit more research on the subject. Well unless you count "Keeping conquered territories and parts of china" as an acceptable condition of "surrender".
It's worth noting that members of the Peace faction of the Japanese government called the atomic bombs "Gifts from Heaven".
The "surrender talks" broadcast to the russians actully have been revealed as a ploy to try and keep the russians from invading japan... while Japan had no actual intention to surreder.
Also medical research generally refutes your claim about birth defects. It's more, a birth defect happens (which does happen without reason) someone was from Nagasaki or their parents were, so they blame nagasaki. Defect rates for survivors and their children are within normal range. There's nothing statistically significant saying it's happened essentially.
