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bouzane on 09 April 2012
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Plezbo said:
sperrico87 said:

Yeah, Iran is not an aggresive nation.  They are simply acting in their own interest, because like many other countries, they do not like it when the US and other countries get involved in their affairs and tell them what they can and cannot do.  How would we like it if China told us we weren't allowed to have nukes anymore, and threatened a blockade in the Gulf of Mexico? 


We are not an Authoratative Theocracy that espouses the destruction of whole nations in our regular rhetoric.  We do not fund terrorist groups in many of our neighboring countries (not officially, but drug users in this country do technically fund the Mexican Cartels and they are terrorists). 

Your comparison holds no water sir.   Should we have nuclear weapons?  Yes, we should.  The survivors of WWII deserve to be able to protect themselves with merely the threat of Nuclear Annihilation, but nothing else.   The US, Russia, China, Britain, and France have too much to lose to actually use Nuclear weapons anymore.  Infact, the Cold War stayed luke warm because the US and the USSR had so many nukes that any direct conflict would be unwinnable.  Nuclear Weapons are horrible things, no doubt, but war is horrible, individual people can be horrible, and lead by the wrong despot, whole populations can become horrible mobs.  Look at the actions of Germans during WWII, Germany isn't an evil nation, and Germans are no more likely to be evil than anyone else, but lead by the wrong person, people can be lead to evil that would be unimaginable by themselves.  This is my fear for Iran, not that the people are bad, but their ruler is a self proclaimed voice of God, and citizens that actually believe him can be lead to unthinkable acts of cruelty and injustice in the name of God.  This has happened throughout history, across every culture, religion, and race.  Right now the situation just happens to find itself in Iran, ironically one of the oldest civilizations on Earth, finding itself once again ruled by a despotic mad man with the "voice of God" in his ear. 

And to those who aren't aware, Ahmadinejad holds no true power in Iran, everything goes through the Supreme Ruler Ayatollah Seyed Ali Hosseini Khamenei. So dont play the "They are a Democracy too" because they are not, they are less of a Democracy than Russia. 


America doesn't fund terrorism? Did I read that right? What do Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Peru, Bolivia, Venezuela, El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala have in common? All of these nations were U.S. client states that employed death squads during the cold war. That's right, the Caravan of Death, Grupo Colina and countless other death squads which killed hundreds of thousands of people were all sponsored by the U.S. The Dirty War, Salvadoran Civil War, Guatemalan Civil War and many others were in America's best interests and no atrocity was too much. The aforementioned crimes would be enough to make Stalin blush and that's only America's Cold War involvement in Latin America. How about we discuss the weaponized Anthrax deployed by America in the Rhodesian Bush War, was that not terrorism on a monumental scale? No other nation has such an appalling human rights record, not even the Germans have as much to be ashamed of.