Iran says could hit U.S. if it came under attack: paper

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sperrico87 said:

Plezbo said:

sperrico87 said:

Yeah, Iran is not an aggresive nation.  They are simply acting in their own interest, because like many other countries, they do not like it when the US and other countries get involved in their affairs and tell them what they can and cannot do.  How would we like it if China told us we weren't allowed to have nukes anymore, and threatened a blockade in the Gulf of Mexico? 

We are not an Authoratative Theocracy that espouses the destruction of whole nations in our regular rhetoric.  We do not fund terrorist groups in many of our neighboring countries (not officially, but drug users in this country do technically fund the Mexican Cartels and they are terrorists). 

Your comparison holds no water sir.   Should we have nuclear weapons?  Yes, we should.  The survivors of WWII deserve to be able to protect themselves with merely the threat of Nuclear Annihilation, but nothing else.   The US, Russia, China, Britain, and France have too much to lose to actually use Nuclear weapons anymore.  Infact, the Cold War stayed luke warm because the US and the USSR had so many nukes that any direct conflict would be unwinnable.  Nuclear Weapons are horrible things, no doubt, but war is horrible, individual people can be horrible, and lead by the wrong despot, whole populations can become horrible mobs.  Look at the actions of Germans during WWII, Germany isn't an evil nation, and Germans are no more likely to be evil than anyone else, but lead by the wrong person, people can be lead to evil that would be unimaginable by themselves.  This is my fear for Iran, not that the people are bad, but their ruler is a self proclaimed voice of God, and citizens that actually believe him can be lead to unthinkable acts of cruelty and injustice in the name of God.  This has happened throughout history, across every culture, religion, and race.  Right now the situation just happens to find itself in Iran, ironically one of the oldest civilizations on Earth, finding itself once again ruled by a despotic mad man with the "voice of God" in his ear. 

And to those who aren't aware, Ahmadinejad holds no true power in Iran, everything goes through the Supreme Ruler Ayatollah Seyed Ali Hosseini Khamenei. So dont play the "They are a Democracy too" because they are not, they are less of a Democracy than Russia. 

I don't require a lecture on Ahmedinejad, as I am fully aware that he has little real power in Iran. But I would be remiss if I didn't point out that he's not a bad guy.  The western media paints him as an evil dictator who is hell-ben on destroying Israel, but nothing could be further from the truth. 

And if we are allowed to have nuclear weapons, then we have no right to tell another nation they also cannot have them.  Israel doesn't deserve special treatment in the middle east.  They are dependent on us for money and weapons, and it is at their peril, because one day, our politicians will come to their senses and stop playing favorites with foreign countries.  Israel should sink or swim on their own merits.  If they want to bomb someone, then they should be allowed to do so without asking the US for permission.  If it goes badly for them, then they should suffer the consequences.  All foreign aid is an abomination, whether it's to Israel, Pakistan, Sudan, or Egypt.

There are waaaaay too many people living in western Europe and North America who have a distorted view of the world.  The distortion comes not only from our media, but from deliberate propoganda techniques employed by our government.  It is not our obligation to run the world and shape it in our image.   We would be under far less threat from "foreign enemies" if we didn't lob cruise missles at whomever we pleased, killing hundreds or thousands of innocent people in the process.

I wouldn't be so sure.

Various Europian coutnries have mostly stayed out of such affairs, yet is just as hard a target.

The west, for all intents and purposes makes a GREAT scapegoat.

Which countries like Iran quite honestly need.  There is a fairly strong revolution movement among the "intellectulists" and young people, mostly only held back by scapegoating the west.

Which by the way is a great reason for Iran to NOT have nuclear weapons.  Not so much that they won't use them, but like North Korea, they are a dictorial power that could fall well withn two generations... during which, who knows what happens to said weapons they have.

The only reason russian cold war nukes were mostly safe was due to the general ignorance around them where anybody else who wanted them didn't know how to handle them.