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WiseOwl on 28 March 2012
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ryuzaki57 said:
WiseOwl said:
ryuzaki57 said:
WiseOwl said:
The damage Sony is doing now to it's image is unprecedented (1). Only time will tell if the PS Vita will ever take off. Sony is still losing money to date. I think that is most serious than most people realize. Only fanboys talk of PS4, while Sony talk 10 year lifespan. Second is not so bad, but first to last place again is unprecedented (2). Xbox360 is lead platform from almost all third party titles and games look almost always better (3). It still have a controller from two decades ago . I can go on and on rumblin but I am going to stop. I should never talk about Sony that way, but when you have fanboys that like to talk careless in front of the world I feel I can do it too. 


A shout out to Ryuzaki57

1. I didn't say Sony wasn't doing mistakes. Nintendo's were just bigger, but they're improving.

2. Surely you are aware that the gap is very different from the precedent gen : PS3 is less than 3 millions behind 360 and sells more, not to mention that PS3 and 360 are closing the gap with Wii fast. The HD twins outsell Wii, whereas Xbox and GameCube put together were still light years away from PS2. I'd also point out that PS3 currently sells more software than Wii, which makes the first/last problem less obvious.

3. You failed to mention that PS3 has more exclusives.


1. I disagree, what you're talking about with 3rd party,  it's nothing new to true Nintendo fanboys that have had a 64 and Gamecube.  But to Sony's fanboys having copied the Wii remote, and being last place is a damage image.  In the beginning using the sixaxis as motion controls, and the trouble Sony is in losing money for years makes it worst.

2. I disagree, the PS3 is not selling enough to close the gap on Nintendo's 30+ million lead fast.  This has nothing to do with the Xbox 360.  PS3 selling more software than the Wii is a lie.

3. That is disputable.

1. True Ninteno fanboys don't make a sustainable audience, we're talking of the average folk here. Besides, Sony communicates little on Move and still places core gaming first. NIntendo did exactly the contrary, but as I said, I have to give them credit for their efforts (Xenoblade, Fire Emblem Awakening). Also, I don't think people remember the Sixaxis or care about the company losing money as long as they're getting the best games. On the contrary, a manufacturer accumulating money while doing nothing to address gamers is bound to rouse anger : that's what Nintendo did. I'm sure true Nintendo fans don't mind, but all the others do.

2. "PS3 selling more software than the Wii is a lie" > Global weekly http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40986/Global/ and yearly http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2012/Global/ (PS3 currently sells 50% more software than Wii in 2012)



1.  I am what's called the average, and own a Wii360.  That said, if you said that in the Gamecube days I will have to agree.  I also take that as you mean consoles and not Nintendo as a company.  But I going to give it to you as it is.  Nintendo has sold 95+ million Wii's and 150+ million DS worldwide.  I have seen a article that the Wii rules the living room and X360 the beedroom.  The casual gamer is the sustainable audience is why no PS3 1st party game will ever reach sales of Wii-Fit.  Did you look at VGChartz Database,  Wii sports is bananas.  Nintendo rules fourteen of the best selling game ever.  GTA: San Andreas for the PS2 at fifteen, then Nintendo rules the next six to twentyone followed by GTA: Vice City.  So if your talking games, there you have it.  The casual  is the sustainable audience and not the so called hardcore. Try telling them if they not your average folk.  Even Just Dance game selling crazy.

 

2.  That wasn't always so, and the Wii U is around the corner.