sperrico87 said:
killerzX said:
sperrico87 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Firstly, "we" are leaving the Middle East. Secondly, how would minimizing the security make us less vulerable to terrorists? "We" are not destroying ourselves within our borders; we are defending ourselves. The more effort, the less casualties.
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Absolutely wrong. Have you read at all about the reasons for the attack on 9/11? We had bases on the Muslim Holy Lands, and we kept interjecting into other nation's internal affairs. Without being asked to. We created the problem of them wanting to come here in the first place. If you don't realize that, then you can't begin to understand how to resolve this.
And, no, we are not leaving the Middle East. I have no idea where you're getting that from. We have bases all over the place over there. And when we pulled most of the combat brigades out of Iraq last year (for purely political reasons) we replaced them all with DoD contractors, who by the way, cost MORE than combat troops.
I would argue that there is a big difference between defending ourselves and overreacting to something that our government's policies caused in the first place. And private airport security NOT run by bureaucrats would do a much better job with safety, and they would do it without destroying the 4th amendment.
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actually you are wrong about the reason they attacked us. sure thats something they say when the talk to western media, but when they talk amongst themselves it much different. this i why they attacked us, i will paraphrase a quote of why Osama bin Laden said they attacked us.
"our talks with the infidel west, ultimately revolve around one thing, and that is to submit to islam either willingly or by the sword because non believers cannot live"
so yeah, they pretty much attacked us because we arent Muslim and dont live in a Muslim society.
and with what the TSA are doing is bring us closer to that society.
on another note to those who think what the TSA did here is fine. answer this: By the TSA agent molesting/searching this kid, did it make that flight in anyway safer?
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Neither does Japan, Korea, China, Russia, South America, or much of Africa and Europe. Seems like if your reason for them wanting to come here and attack us was true, all of those other non-Muslim regions would be regularly under threat, too. Yet, they're not.
And prior to us invading the Middle East and trying to re-mold them into puppet democracies, there were very few terrorist attacks against Americans. After we invaded and began this ridiculous "War on Terror", there have been more terrorist attacks against Americans than occurred during all the time before 9/11.
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your wrong about that to0.
Europe gets tons of attacks, as well as many other regions.
also, this is what OBL said, the leader of al-quada. those are his words. they hate us because our way of life, our liberty and freedom, they hate are Christianity and our religious freedom. they hate our support of isreal.
many of these things are unique to the US or are more predominent in the US.
if you listen to the reasons they attack us, its because of the teachings of islam to kill, infedels, the non-believers.
the US is the polar opposite of their society, we are tolerant, we have/had true freedom, their society seeks to control everone, and have people submit to islam or die.
thats something the US has never experienced, but now they are winning, we are becoming more like their totalitarian society, with things like the TSA.
so, no you are wrong, listen to why they attack us, they dont mention our presence in the middle east, except when the talk to the west., to get them to sympathize with their cause, their jihad.
