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Kasz216 on 12 March 2012
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HesAPooka said:
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MARCUSDJACKSON said:
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yes he is. why? because it's my opinion. i'm sure after a while the enemy looks the same as the civilians, so you get to the point where you're not sure who the enemy is, but mental illness is no excuse for murder. if it was just mental illness, he would have stopped at one house.

Again... i'm guessing you have no actual expeirence or schooling in mental illnesses.

no but my grandfather who does agrees with me. srry.

In that case.... he should go back to school... because he wasn't paying much attention.

Cause you know... there are tons of examples on record or people with mental illnesses killing multiple people in multiple locations in a short period of time.

In fact....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killer#List_of_spree_killings

hmmmmmmmmmm. it's opinion plan and simple. my grandfather is retired from working with crazy people, and the military so i'm sure he's more qualified then you.

noobie did not ask for an educated guess so back off. i'm not much for debates or discussion these days so this conversation was pointless on your part but thanks for your logical opinion i guess.

i got loads of respect aand have agreed with you in the past, but this isn't a conversation you can win, cause there isn't one to be had.

If that's really your grandfather's opinion then it's a good thing he is retiring.   There is specific evidence to the contrary of such opinion, that has been presented.

Your defense now seems to boil down to "Well he didn't ask for an informed opinion."

Which is like saying if someone asks you "Is the world round" and you say "No the world is flat" then there is no way to prove you wrong, because well... they didn't ask you "give a correct opinion of if the world is round or not."

Get over it. You don't know what really happend, and neither do I, or anyone here. We can come to our own opinions, but you seems to be arguing this subject like you have all the facts and it's a matter of fact what you're saying. If you want to contend that he was mentally ill thats fine, but don't word it like its matter of fact based on the the fact that you suplied a wiki link. 

Edit: I wanna add to this that of course no one wants to believe that this guy got drunk and decided to get some revenge for his country, but it is a possibility.


Could he have?  It's possible.

However that's not the issue.  The issue is that you and he both said "These factors mean he wasn't mentally ill" when in fact... said factors are completely consistant with mental illness and quite honestly point more towards mental illness then the opposite.

I'm not argueing this as if I have all the facts.

I'm argueing it from the point of "I know about mental illnesses."


I never once said that, what I said is. I basically implied that if it was illness he would have shot at everyone and not been so specific with his fire. Again thats my opinion and I could be wrong. What I do know about mental illness is that no illness is exactly the same so comparing it to previous shootings isn't proof that he was mentally ill.


And what I said was... your opinion is wrong.  Demonstrably wrong.

That's it.