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Cirio said:
But Heavy Rain had guns in it.

You know what he meant, and if you don't, try to. Heavy Rain was released in 2010. He said "it doesn't mean anything to me anymore". Since then, he's reached a point of saturation (that applies to his persception of L.A.Noire). For the rest, he clearly says that guns, within a context, is okay. But just putting in guns for the hell of it isn't something he's fond of.