I think it's safe to say the PS3 is the definitive graphics king for this gen

[Michael-5]

killerzX said:

you seem very very very biased, and seem to have no arguement other than the games you like more have better graphics, basically because you like them more, as if you are wishing for them to have better graphics. if have lurked on this site long enough to see your anti everything ps3, and its really no use arguing with you because you change the argument so much. you are disingenous and back track. you act as if you word is fact, and then attack people for their opinions and say it not a fact. this is silly i didnt want to get involved with this because i love both systems, and have many games for both. and i dont even like gran turismo. but what ever, you have yoor (slanted)opinion based off nothing, i have my opinion based off common opinion and analysi of games but whatever.

edit: and that link proves nothing, those were e3 awards nearly a year before KZ2 was released, and just before Gears 2 was released, one had finished graphics, the other pre-alpha (Pre-Alpha for Killzone 2 was looong before 2008). furthermore Gears didnt even win best graphics for that year by ign, MGS4 did wasn't my point, my point was Gears 2 > Killzone 2, you are twisting my point (and then insulting me for changing the subject and twisting the arguement). so again you have no footing in your argument, you stand on nothing, other than bias

I'm biased, but I think Uncharted 3 looks the best and after that both consoles have great looking games? Exactly how is this biased? I am able to admit that neither console has graphical superiority, unlike you. Also just so you know I like and own Uncharted, Heavy Rain, Killzone and many other PS3 exclusives (not GoW so much). Typically good looking games are good quality.

...wow you're unbeleivable. I tell Aldros that his opinion is not fact, and that everyone has their own opinions, yet somehow you interpret that what I say is fact? You're free to believe what you like, I'm just saying that peoples opinions =/= definitive answers, the whole general concensus arguement is people wanting their opinions to be more true then everyone elses, which is just plain wrong. No one's opinion outweighs the others.

To argue this, and to insult me instead of counter just means that you can't accept that people with different opinions other then your exist. In General, resorting to insults is indication of a lack of ability to continue debating, or inability to return an intelligent counter (Not being specific towards anyone with this comment, and not trying to insult, just saying). I can accept people thinking Killzone looks better then Gears, and I've said it multiple times in this thread...You can't accept that people think Forza looks better then GT5.

"Common opinion" is you telling me your opinion is a concensus, or more valid then mine. You insult me for interpreting my opinion as a presentation of facts, but then express your own opinion as a general concensus (the closest thing in a debate after hard facts).

Increadible.