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oniyide on 04 March 2012
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happydolphin said:
oniyide said:

Wrong, those people are barely serious hobbyists.  I have a smart phone and I still carry my DSand Or PSP with me. You know why?? Because those phone/tablet/FB games suck, or at the very least dont even offer the types of games that the dedicated portables or home consoles do. I looking at the sales of 3DS and PSV to a lesser extent. reckon their are millions of people that think like me. As long as we dont "conclude" that we have all we NEED on those other devices. Ninty will be just fine.  Im not saying that those smartphone games have not had an effect, but people are losing it. Its not that serious

I wasn't talking about the hobbyists. I was talking about the mainstream and casual.

I think Ninty knows that their Brain Age type of games will be affected. Which is why they probably  went the "core" route with the 3DS, IMHO.  How can they mitigate??? By making an online store that MIGHT be as good as the App store. If Sony and MS couldnt make a dent in Apple, what makes you think Ninty can do it. ANd keep in mind, those two companies actual know what the hell they are doing when it comes to online. They are smart, they are playing their roles, Ninty needs to do the same.  The only way they can mitigate is to make an actual phone to go against the iphone, that would be suicide. Or make an actual tablet and no the WIii U controller is not an actual tablet it has less functionality than the crappy tablets out there, you cant even take it with you

I don't disagree with you. I don't know how they would mitigate and am not offering any solutions. TBH I think HappyS' solutions were the most interesting thus far.

I'm just saying there is either no mitigation solution, or there is one but the question is "what is it"?

Ultimately, and of course, this applies to the very casual side of Nintendo's business (Brain Age, Nintendogs, Animal Crossing).

Here are a few I highlighted from the top 66 DS games. There are 39 titles (60%) and they total 181.68M SW sales (of 348.06M, 52% sales) :

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
2 Nintendogs DS 2005 Simulation Nintendo 9.01 10.70 1.93 2.71 24.36
4 Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day DS 2005 Misc Nintendo 4.71 9.04 4.16 2.03 19.94
6 Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day DS 2005 Misc Nintendo 3.40 5.30 5.32 1.18 15.20
8 Animal Crossing: Wild World DS 2005 Simulation Nintendo 2.42 3.16 5.33 0.82 11.73
11 Mario Party DS DS 2007 Misc Nintendo 4.13 1.66 1.98 0.67 8.44
13 Big Brain Academy DS 2005 Misc Nintendo 1.64 2.67 1.60 0.61 6.53
15 Cooking Mama DS 2006 Simulation 505 Games 2.81 1.86 0.07 0.56 5.30
16 Professor Layton and the Curious Village DS 2007 Adventure Nintendo 1.18 2.28 1.03 0.50 4.99
17 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games DS 2008 Sports Sega 1.61 2.35 0.44 0.56 4.96
21 Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day DS 2007 Misc Nintendo 0.85 1.52 1.05 0.35 3.77
22 Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box DS 2007 Adventure Nintendo 0.71 1.77 0.92 0.37 3.77
23 Tomodachi Collection DS 2009 Misc Nintendo 0.00 0.00 3.67 0.00 3.67
25 MySims DS 2007 Simulation Electronic Arts 1.57 1.55 0.08 0.40 3.60
26 Cooking Mama 2: Dinner With Friends DS 2007 Simulation 505 Games 1.52 1.45 0.10 0.39 3.46
27 Guitar Hero: On Tour DS 2008 Misc Activision 2.07 0.99 0.01 0.34 3.41
28 Clubhouse Games DS 2006 Misc Nintendo 0.57 1.70 0.73 0.34 3.34
29 English Training: Have Fun Improving Your Skills! DS 2006 Misc Nintendo 0.00 0.99 2.32 0.02 3.33
30 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games DS 2009 Sports Sega 1.17 1.45 0.27 0.35 3.24
31 Personal Trainer: Cooking DS 2006 Misc Nintendo 0.85 1.01 1.03 0.17 3.06
34 Rhythm Heaven DS 2008 Misc Nintendo 0.44 0.47 1.93 0.12 2.97
35 Club Penguin: Elite Penguin Force DS 2008 Adventure Disney Interactive Studios 1.74 0.93 0.00 0.29 2.96
36 Professor Layton and the Unwound Future DS 2008 Adventure Nintendo 0.43 1.37 0.82 0.26 2.88
38 Imagine: Babyz DS 2007 Simulation Ubisoft 1.28 1.25 0.00 0.31 2.83
39 Imagine: Fashion Designer DS 2007 Simulation Ubisoft 1.31 1.18 0.00 0.30 2.79
41 Hannah Montana DS 2006 Action Disney Interactive Studios 1.58 0.79 0.00 0.26 2.63
43 Style Savvy DS 2008 Simulation Nintendo 0.54 0.70 0.96 0.16 2.37
44 Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem! DS 2010 Puzzle Nintendo 1.41 0.42 0.35 0.19 2.36
45 Art Academy DS 2010 Misc Nintendo 0.22 1.50 0.33 0.26 2.31
46 WarioWare Touched! DS 2004 Puzzle Nintendo 0.50 0.43 1.21 0.13 2.26
49 Professor Layton and the Last Specter DS 2009 Adventure Nintendo 0.17 1.11 0.68 0.20 2.15
51 Tetris DS DS 2006 Puzzle Nintendo 0.62 0.01 1.35 0.07 2.05
52 LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures DS 2008 Adventure Activision 1.29 0.55 0.00 0.20 2.03
53 The Sims 2: Pets DS 2006 Simulation Electronic Arts 0.91 0.91 0.00 0.22 2.03
56 TouchMaster DS 2007 Puzzle Midway Games 0.46 1.25 0.00 0.24 1.95
58 Kirby Squeak Squad DS 2006 Platform Nintendo 0.77 0.01 1.05 0.08 1.90
59 Carnival Games DS 2008 Misc Take-Two Interactive 1.09 0.60 0.00 0.19 1.88
60 Scribblenauts DS 2009 Puzzle Warner Bros. Interactive 1.42 0.25 0.02 0.16 1.85
63 Kanshuu Nippon Joushikiryoku Kentei Kyoukai: Imasara Hito ni wa Kikenai Otona no Joushikiryoku Training DS DS 2006 Misc Nintendo 0.00 0.00 1.71 0.00 1.71
66 Imagine: Teacher DS 2008 Simulation Ubisoft 0.67 0.81 0.00 0.19 1.67


If we are talking strictly casual audience, then yeah. Thats probably why they pushed the 3DS as a core machine, getting ready for that audience to go on to smartphones?? Possibly.  I dont thin they need to mitigate to be honest and I dont think they can. Unless they are willing to really switch up their strategy.  If they really wanted to combat the Iphone and such, they would need a phone. They want to combat tablets, they need tables. Lets keep it real, no one is going to look at Wii U and think that is a tablet of quality, not people who know better anyway.