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noname2200 said:
Plezbo said:

How hasn't the smart phone market affected the handheld gaming market?  Sales of 3DS and PSV are lower than either DS or PSP at launch.  You don't have to have either to get your casual gaming fix anymore.  It is very naive to think that smart phones and tablets won't affect this generation of portables, if infact it doesnt make this the last generation of dedicated mobile gaming devices.  

For the underlined, you should double-check those figures. For the bolded, you should define your terms. And for the italicized, you should lay off the acid.

Before we can continue this discussion of whether smart phones will affect dedicated handhelds, I need you to give me a bit more to work with. What do you mean by "affect"? Are you saying handhelds this generation will see less revenue, that they'll be less profitable, that their marketshare will decrease, that more developer resources will shift to smart phones, or something else? Most importantly, what solid data do you base these assertions on? And please keep in mind that "casual gaming lol" is not analysis.

Ok, Listen, I see what you are saying.  As a research engineer I can understand the want for cited research to back up assertations.  I have double checked the DS and PSP figures, hell there was a chart on the front page the other day, but if you want numbers, fine, tell you what, tonight I will do the necessary research and back up my claim as far as sales go.  

For the bolded portion, here goes.  3DS and PSV will sell less total hardware and software due to direct competition in the mobile space from smartphones and tablets.  

As for the italicized part, thats just a fact you are going to have to live with.  In 2017 or 2018 you arent going to be able to release a DEDICATED mobile gaming platform.  If these two horses are still in the race, they will have to offer more than just games, and not just as an after thought. (Though as a side note, the Netflix support for both devices is a step in the right direction).  

As far as grounded data goes, I won't pretend I spent hours researching this, because I didn't.  This is a video game message board, I put up an opinion that is rooted in my everyday experience at my job working very closely with a major research University.  5 years ago people had DS's and PSP's all over the place, now instead of seeing the students playing DS or PSP, its Angry Birds on their iPhones.  

One last comment and then I am done with this thread.  What crawled up your ass and died?  I stated an opinion, that was better supported than yours that 

"smart phones have done nothing to the market, they are totally different, 3ds sales show this"

Um, where do 3DS sales show this?  You mean during the summer when the e-Shop was open offering similar games and apps as smart phones and the 3DS still putt putted along until Mario 3D and MK7 were released?  Where is your analysis?  Is it next to your acid?  Because I don't think that was analysis, I think that was more acid muchacho.  

Anyway, the point of this thread was whether or not Vita would be the #1.  No, it won't.  160k first week American sales are a bad start to be #1, and muted interest among the general public is another bad sign.  Also, the fact that the only commercials I see for the thing are Taco Bell adverts are more damning.  "Get your meat flavored paper filling AND your mobile gaming platform, FROM US!!!" Yeah, no thanks, now where's Seth, I need to get high after all this nonsense, have fun with Little Big Planet Karting on your Vita, that game actually sounds like it is going to be awes- ..... what?  Oh....