Pachter: "Wii U won't save Nintendo, phones took 35% of the market"

[Ail]

happydolphin said:

oniyide said:

Its all good, some people just dont have the time, energy or funds to buy systems just for one game, not in this economy anyway. No matter how much they may like it, and my friends are the ones that defend the franchise and even watch the damn movies. IMHO, i just think Capcom is going crazy with RE and they are going to oversaturate the series, I think we might be seeing that with RE R, but i wont know for sure until the other two come out.

Yeah your right it was market leader, I think what happened was they saw how well the WiiSports/Fit were doing compared to everything else and decided to go that route for Wii, now lets take UBi, they make a killing on AC and JD, JD costs them nothing to make for Wii, AC is pretty damn expensive, but they both make them money. Yes a AC game for Wii would be cheaper than an AC game for HD, but it would still be more expensive than JD and wouldnt even sell anywher near as much as JD on Wii or AC on PS360. Yeah they made one for PSP and DS, but those didnt exactly fly off the shelves themselves, hell I think IMHO it would have done worst. Thats just an example. And really that scenario has always been like that. Its the same thing on HDs, just replace dance with FPSs, last gen it was sandbox, before that...JRPGS and 3d plats, before that 2d plats. Yes if you are a Wii only owner, it sucks to be you sometimes, but fortunately this will never happen again.

RE:R was what many call a much needed return to the franchise's roots. But I think we're going off for RE, we founds lots of common ground on it, and I understand your buddies not being able to afford two plats. In my story, I didn't end up buying the 360 with SFIV, but I was very, very tempted to, if I remember correctly I was picking up the box to get ready to buy it, but decided not to. It was a bad move the 360 would've provided lots of fun, but what the heck.

@Bold, I'm glad you mentioned that, and it's so true. But the 2nd part of the sentence, it not selling as much as AC on PS360 is debatable. Not as much as JD is highly likely, but not as much as AC on PS360.

Assassin's Creed (9.38M)

Pos	Game	Platform	Year	Genre	Publisher	North America	Europe	Japan	Rest of World	Global
1	Assassin's Creed	X360	2007	Adventure	Ubisoft	2.99	1.49	0.07	0.51	5.06
4	Assassin's Creed	PS3	2007	Adventure	Ubisoft	1.72	1.77	0.09	0.74	4.32
Total										9.38

 

Assassin's Creed II (9.62M)

Pos	Game	Platform	Year	Genre	Publisher	North America	Europe	Japan	Rest of World	Global
2	Assassin's Creed II	PS3	2009	Action	Ubisoft	2.09	1.81	0.21	0.79	4.89
3	Assassin's Creed II	X360	2009	Action	Ubisoft	2.66	1.51	0.08	0.48	4.73
Total										9.62

 

Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (8.02M)

Pos	Game	Platform	Year	Genre	Publisher	North America	Europe	Japan	Rest of World	Global
5	Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood	X360	2010	Action	Ubisoft	2.31	1.34	0.03	0.41	4.09
6	Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood	PS3	2010	Action	Ubisoft	1.46	1.68	0.11	0.68	3.93
Total										8.02

 

Assassin's Creed: Revelations (6.36M)

Pos	Game	Platform	Year	Genre	Publisher	North America	Europe	Japan	Rest of World	Global
7	Assassin's Creed: Revelations	X360	2011	Action	Ubisoft	1.73	1.15	0.02	0.33	3.24
8	Assassin's Creed: Revelations	PS3	2011	Action	Ubisoft	1.06	1.44	0.06	0.57	3.12
Total										6.36

 

Just Dance (Main entries. Low: 6.61M, High: 8.97M)

Pos	Game	Platform	Year	Genre	Publisher	North America	Europe	Japan	Rest of World	Global
1	Just Dance 2	Wii	2010	Misc	Ubisoft	5.44	2.66	0.01	0.87	8.97
2	Just Dance 3	Wii	2011	Misc	Ubisoft	3.94	2.66	0.00	0.76	7.36
3	Just Dance	Wii	2009	Misc	Ubisoft	3.07	2.82	0.00	0.71	6.61

 

I'd agree that a Wii flavor of AC could at most reach the sales volume of one of the HD twins, so 4-5M. True, Just Dance was the right business choice for Ubisoft, especially for a dev-intensive game as AC. Great Point.

I never thought of it that way. Question though, what was the performance of AC (1) prior to the expansion of the HD market (due to games like AC)? This would help answer the final question. Are AC sales high due to 3rd parties favoring the HD twins, or are they high on the HD twins, hence the sound business decision. I've brought up lots of numbers, it's your turn Oni . I'm curious to know the answer!

I would be carefull with AC numbers because I have noticed every year that it is one of the most heavilly discounted title every January.

Ubisoft moves a lot of units, but the question is at what price .

One month after the release some retailers had sales  offering the game at 50% of the release price. And I noticed the same thing last year with Brotherhood..

By comparisons, games like Skyrim or Batman Arkham City, were not discounted as much ( CoD MW3 wasn't either but that is expected, there is so much demand the title sells close to full price for a very long time)