Pachter: "Wii U won't save Nintendo, phones took 35% of the market"

[oniyide]

happydolphin said:

oniyide said:

happydolphin said:

oniyide said:

oh yeah, Capcom was foul for that. You'll get no arguments from me on that. Skipping the Wii and giving a RE:R to 3DS instead is shady.  Another thing is that Ninty and third parties really werent working with each other when it came to WII. It has to be a two way street, whether they are market leaders or not. 

I just mentioned Skyrim because it is one of the games that I have seen requested. What was a top tier game?? What game would have Wii only owners want that they would consider top tier. Because IMHO, as soon as a gen starts and the more powerful hardware comes out top tier kind of changes

Oh, yeah don't get me wrong Skyrim is top-tier. I just, what I meant was a game that is not necessarily Skyrim but that is top-tier and makes the Wii shine. It could even be TES, but just not Skyrim that kind of thing didn't work for the Wii.

Like what I'm trying to say is a game with depth and one that was made with the big minds of a 3rd party to yield a gem of a game, graphics or advanced processing aside. A Wii gem (like MH).

Yeah that makes sense, kind of like a GTA for Wii just running on the engince from PS2 games?? Thats all well and good  but would most people consider that top tier anyway?? What i mean is that a game like that released on WIi could be good but I dont think most people would consider that top tier, not when you have the GTA4 and 5s on the other systems blowing it  away.   Would you consider MH top tier still if there were a PS360 version that was doing what the Wii version did but much more? Im not trying to be difficult but I know there are people who think like that. I mean look at CODs they are considered top tier on the HDs but not on WII?? 

Well, take for example RE:R. The game is a 3DS exclusive. Sure it could be made to work on PS360 etc., but for now it's a 3DS-only experience, it is top-tier, and RE fans will not go without playing it no matter the platform.

As a counter-example, take SFIV. Same company. However the game looks and sounds a million times better on the PS360.

Of course, if RE:R was released on PS360 with HD-ified graphics, it would be prefered on the PS360, but keep in mind the 3DS/Wii graphics also have their own charm. The same goes for MH (like you asked). Maybe some people would like it better on the Wii, it has beautiful graphics, just Wii not HD.

A game like COD is made for HD, it needs to look real. A game like MH, Okami, fantasy and such don't need to look real per se, they need to capture imagination with art style. Of course the graphical capabilities help (as in the case of SFIV), but the Wii/3DS have lots of power to convey fantasy. Look at Super Mario Galaxy and Zelda SS. That's top tier, and absolutely gorgeos SD stuff. If it were on the HD systems, would it possibly lose some of its charm? If not done right, I would argue maybe yes.

actually I do know some RE fans who are not getting it because it is on 3DS, they dont want to buy a system for one game, that is just a few instances, but its not like the game si flying off the shelves, im sure it will do well in the long run.

I think the data shows that most people would prefer to play games on the PS360 on WIi, hell look at Rayman Origins, it has the charm that you speak off. But the Wii version is the worst selling of the consoles, which is a surprise to me. SF4, yeah that could have worked on Wii, the fact that their was an Ipone version is probably salt to the would for some, but you also have to consider the online portion. Its not like the WIi is good in that area, was Capcom willing to do more work having to dumb down not just the game but the online to sell a game that most people would have not bought on WIi anyway??? It would have been a good gesture, but would it have been worth it? Only Capcom really knows

Disagree on the charm aspect, IMHO i think that is just something Wii owners come to terms with to compensate for not being able to handle certain types of games, lets be real here, it isnt like those games you mentioned couldnt run on a PS360 or PC. Hell people do just that with the Dolphin emulator AND it looks better. Then you have the Braids, Trines, Raymans, Sonics. no it would lose no charm