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elprincipe said:
Final-Fan said:
[edit: Post corrected for blindness.]
 
OK, now I guess I have to reinstate the part I took out:

What does the survival rate of the fertilized eggs have to do with anything? Back in the middle ages when infant mortality rates were just ridiculous would it be OK to have abortion? (I seem to recall that way back when they didn't even name infants in many cultures until a certain age, presumably because so many died soon after birth. I could be wrong though.)

As far as I can tell you've abandoned the idea that implantation actually is some kind of starting point and gone to, "well, it's just a good spot to pick." You seem to be admitting that at some point the developing tissue develops to the point that it is now considered a child, which is very different from what you have argued up until now. Are we now indeed down to arguing over the proper stage in development that that occurs? I want to make sure before I spend a few paragraphs on the brainwaves thing. (It's NOT semantics.)

If you leave a fertilized egg alone to develop naturally before it is implanted, it may or may not survive. If you leave a fertilized egg alone after it is implanted, most likely it will eventually be born. Therefore, one is a potential life and another is a life.

So again, you're using survival rate as the deciding factor? That seems strange to me, especially when you probably could have made an argument a thousand years ago in support of "abortion" up to the first year after birth based on that factor.

"Prospective studies using very sensitive early pregnancy tests have found that 25% of pregnancies are miscarried by the sixth week LMP (since the woman's Last Menstrual Period).  The risk of miscarriage decreases sharply after the 8th week, i.e. when the fetal stage begins."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage

Are you OK with abortions in the embryonic stage before the fetal stage? Or is 50% survival rate when it becomes human?



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