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crissindahouse on 18 February 2012
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Viper1 said:
Barozi said:
Viper1 said:
Millenium said:
X360 (As indicated by the EED reports) has been profitable since 2008/2009, so yeah 3 years.

Indeed they have but the only problem with it all is that we actually can't be 100% sure how much the X360 attributes to those profits.

The X360 belongs to their Entertainment and Devices Division.   This division is also home to Wiindows CE, Windows Phone, MSN TV, Zune and some other products.   For the sake of argument, MS could take a $100 million loss on the X360 but make $300 million on the other products and still report a $200 million profit.  Of course that works on the flip side as well.   X360 could make the profits, the other products take losses and we'd never really know how that is broken down per products line.

Sony now does the same thing with their Consumer Products & Services Division that now houses the PS3 along with their consumer electronics devices like TV's, stereos and cameras.

Yeah because everything in that devision are huge breakout hits.....seriously....

I'm just saying that 360 is overall profitable even with the $2b they spent on RROD. So they can EASILY spent the same amount of money, perhaps even more on hardware parts. (or rather for making sure that RROD will not happen again)

It was $1.06 billion, not $2 billion and it was written down meaning they had tax breaks to mitigate the actual economic impact.  The charge was applied to their 4th quarter FY 2007 and only accounted for, again, $1.06 billion of the $1.892 billion loss for the FY.  So they still had a loss of $832 million that year when you remove the RRoD warranty charge.

...(i read something wrong)