FOX NEWS on MASS EFFECT Sex Debate

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Sqrl said:

I was trying to point out how quickly people twist these topics to another issue. How rather than have a discussion about the topic they are twisted into Fox-bashing session regardless of what was actually said or happened and it quickly becomes a foaming rant on Fox news...again. And your responce to my pointing that out was to move further down that road, presumably in spite.

 Alright. I'll try and take a less argumentative tone on this. But I do take several issues with what your saying. First off, you state that you took issue with my twisting this thread into an anti fox news story... But that was kind of the point. The whole issue was that fox news did a hatchet job of a story. As many people feel that is common for Fox to do, there's nothing out of place for stating so.

I honestly think that the only difference between your post and one that would get any member banned is a few interchangeable words from Fox to [console name]. In all Honesty the post seems like its coming from a completely different person.

I really didn't think it was that bad. I didn't use any vulgarities or insult intelligence, I just pointed out some problems with Fox News 

@Thompson side issue: I am aware of what JT did on Fox news, and I think its beyond ridiculous. I also think it is beyond ridiculous that when a news outlet brings on a pundit they should instantly be attributed as sharing the views of that pundit. I'm sure all of the people you mentioned as "shouldn't be allowed within 200 feet of a microphone" have been on other major networks before...so by that logic we should condemn all of those networks and papers that allowed them to give their viewpoint also right? Or maybe we should just place responsibility for a person's statements on that person alone? That makes a helluva lot more sense to me. Aside from that, looking at this issue specifically I just don't see how pointing to a single whackjob that got on Fox a couple of times even begins to form a coherant argument to support your last post.

Those other people I mentioned - John Gibson, Bill O'reilly, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter and Mike Covuto (ok, I added him in after) aren't just pundits who've appeared on the network, They have shows on it! In fact, Bill O'Reilly is Fox News' biggest personality. He's the guy that presents Fox News's "Talking Points". The List of their transgressions are as long as my leg. So why don't I just put the responsibility on that person alone? Because Fox News gives them their shows. I think it's perfectly reasonable to blame those responsible for giving these hacks a podium to spew their nonsense from.

I will say they deserve to catch flack for allowing thompson to misrepresent himself, but given the last-second nature of the segment I have a hard time seeing that as anything but a less than minor issue at best.

I think it's pretty standard protocall at a national network to at least know something about the "experts" they bring on the show. And I think it's safe to say they didn't do any sort of check at all, or they'd have known that their "expert" was first made famous when he demanded to know if Janet Reno was a lesbian or not. 

As for the PS, I wasn't explicit but I was attempting to keep the mood light because I don't like politics effecting the overall gaming debates and I try to forget what people's politics are when discussing other topics with them. If thats not the case with you then let me know, so I know what to expect.

PS - For the record I wasn't looking for a fight here, although in retrospect I could've been far more diplomatic about it. But you'll have to excuse me if I am a bit annoyed that after I said that I trust Fox just as much as any other network you explicitly ratcheted up the attacks. I can't take that as anything but a personal attack. I knew you disagreed with me but the last thing I expected was for you to be outright insulting which you most certainly were. If I had posted a similarly insulting and disrespectful post in responce to you how would you have taken it? What would you have done?

Alright, on this one I'm sorry. I honestly didn't mean any of that to be personal. Even the "I lub you... sorta" was meant in a light hearted way. The "The hell?" was legitimate suprise. I generally don't get angry on the internet since it's the internet and all. I hope we can still be friends or at least maintain an akward pleasant nature when in eachother's company. I'd hate for this to spoil the next VG Christmas party.

Wait, you mean you didn't know about the last VG Christmas party? HAHA, you weren't invited you loser! Go cry while watching Fox News! 

Damn I'm cruel