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D-Joe said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/40227/Analyst_questions_validity_of_unusual_January_NPD_results.php
The group confirmed to Gamasutra, however, that Wal-Mart POS data was not included in the January report, and thus did not affect this month's software sales figures.

so NPD starting include Wal-Mart this month?

NPD has always estimated Wal-mart numbers (with historic data, other means, and current trends). Still, the numbers are within 5% of exact sales, don't expect any magic additions to them.

I've heard of cases where NPD have a game at 50k while the publisher has confirmed sell-through of 200k so their tracking really isn't as accurate (especially at the lower end) as people like to think. Clearly the addition of Walmart will help this considerably.

On topic, I also find these figures very hard to digest - the market is down surely but both for December and January NPD have showed data that is 40%+ down on previous years which makes little sense when compared to other markets like the UK and when compared to all of the months prior to December. It does come across as though NPD have changed their tracking methods or are making adjustments for something. For Pachter to publicly question it then that should certainly raise some serious doubts.

We certainly have no intention of making and adjustments to our data for January.

Its all a bit mysterious but the end of March numbers from the manufacturers will show for sure what the real situiation is.  If NPD are to be believed then shipments will be next to nothing.  Supply would be more than enough already.


this. If MS ships more than 600k this quarter, all the "overshipped!!" arguements were just wrong

But they'll continue.  They'll always continue.  People are creating their own truth ...

I know. It is just hard to believe that basically the whole world accepts the fact that 360 outsold PS3 in 2011. But 3-4 people here on VGC keep on fighting a lost battle.

I like VGC I really do, but we have to be honest that the quality of the numbers varies.

Nope, the 'whole world' accepts 360 outshipped the ps3 in 2011 not that it outsold it. Jesus christ this is getting really sad now, thread after thread on this site, Mircosoft fans come in and try and state as fact that the 360 outsold the ps3 when all the data that has been clearly laid out in black and white shows that Microsoft overshipped in 2011, and to top it off the 360 fans try and claim that this site is biased towards sony and the forums are dominated by sony fanboys and that it's everybody else who is deluded. *rollseyes*

Every unit shipped is a unit sold. End of story.

Every unit shipped is a unit sold to retailers not consumers. End of story.