JayWood2010 said:
First off this is not a doom thread, but simply pointing out why the Playstation Vita will struggle in the mobile world and also why it will not fail either.
Are you comparing the vita to the Mobile world as in Smartphones? If so, you really cant compare them like that.
The PSP was unfortunate enough to have the PSP massively hacked and created many problems on the PSP but that is not the only reason games did not sale well on the PSP.
The main reason why software sales were lacking was because about piracy, majority of PSPs that were sold around 2005-2007 were easily hacked/jailbroked with custom firmware from homebrew developers, Sony tried to combat them by releasing a revised version of the PSP, but when the Pandora battery came out, that made any chance of protecting the PSP from piracy obsolete, I wouldnt be surprised if 50%+ users have a custom firmware on their PSP.
Let's go back and think of the games made on the PSP.........Not much right. I mean yes they had a few like God of War, Metal Gear Solid, Crysis Core, and let's not forget about Monster Hunters. But even when you take these games don't you kind of wish they were on the PS3 with better graphics? Wouldn't they have all been better off that way?
God of War, Metal Gear Solid and Crisis Core were all original games on the PSP , they are not ports. No I wouldnt wish and never wished for a PS3 port/version, thats like saying I wish Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 came out on the Wii as well. Graphics arent everything either.
That's where you are wrong. You have some people who look at the graphics and are amazed at what they're seeing so they rush out to buy it. Then you have others who look at it and say, what is on this that makes it any different than my PS3. Some will argue that it has touchscreen front and rear, a gyro scope, and a camera. But wait isn't a gyro scope basically sixaxis? And isn't the PS eye a camera? And touchscreen vs buttons? We have all seen how that ends right?
Its a portable, what did you expect? You really cant compare the PSVita to the PS3, again that is like comparing the 3DS to the Wii.
However, let's continue with the software shall we. So it has Uncharted, Wipeout, Modnation racers, Little Big Planet, Killzone, Resistance,etc, etc! All these First first party games coming to the Vita, it will be an instant hit right?! Wrong. We are looking at the same mistakes that the PSP made. All these games are nice but when you have a home console already, why can't I just play it on there?
You seem to not understand the gaming industry rule, if it sells, make it for that system. Just because it came out on the PS3 doesnt mean it cant come out on the PSVita. Would you rather not have any First party titles from Sony on the Vita? Also those game versions that are coming out on the vita are actually original games, their not ports or remakes (except for Modnation Racers).
We have all these games for the PS3 but now we can have them on a portable but with not quite as good of graphics, a smaller screen, and not as good as audio. But i know, I know, Nintendo remakes games all the time for the 3DS and DS. Just look at all the Mario and Zelda games right? Well you are right but a lot of people miss things like Mario and Zelda fits in perfectly with the mobile crowd. Or that Zelda games on the DS are usually a lot different than the console version, and really its Mario. Mario is an icon, that's all that needs to be said. Then you have franchises that are built specifically for the DS and 3DS like pokemon.
Apples to Oranges. Nintendo's first party titles will always sell better than Sony's, thats a fact, not a opinion. Comparing Nintendo's first party titles to Sony's first party titles is like comparing Final Fantasy to every other RPG series that is out there. Look at the comparison between Tales series and Final Fantasy? Which sells more? FF because of its brand name, its more known throughout the world than Tales series, I know alot of people who know and love FF but never heard of Tales series. The same logic applies to Nintendo and Sony titles.
This all being said Sony has a game that can rival Nintendo with Monster Hunters......Unfortunately the 3DS has that now too which means the Vita lost it's flagship with the Vita. So what games can take over now and have a real impact on the Vita?
All Nintendo had were first party titles with the inclusion of a few casual games that are a huge hit that are oh wow made by Nintendo as well (i.e. Nintendogs).
Capcom will always go after the system that will have a huge number of sales and whatever will run MH best, Capcom isnt there to help Sony or Nintendo, their watching their own backs and just want $$$$, this generation the 3DS is capable of running their game unlike the NDS which lacked and was released on the PSP. I wouldnt be surprised if we see a ipad version of MH in the coming months/years.
As for MH overall, it isnt everything, eventually a new IP or some other game will take its place as the main system seller. Its just too soon to know what it is.
The Vita has also started it's selling point at $250 or $300 with the 3G model. Or is it. Considering the heavy pricing of the memory cards which allows you to play games you are probably looking at $280 at least.
Blame Hackers for that extra $30 and memory cards.
Then you have the same people I talked about earlier who says, well the technology is huge and it's worth it. Well I would have to say yes, but is it to much for a mobile device that you can find something similar on the PS3 for a cheaper price but with slightly better graphics?
No you cant, you're talking like as if the same exact games are on the PS3, Wipeout 2048 and Uncharted GA arent (will they be? maybe in the future from 2 years from now maybe). Along with that, alot of the ports that are incoming in are for those who never had the original game like me for an example, I never got to play any of the old PS3 games because I purchased my PS3 back in November 2011, never got the chance to play Disgaea 3, I will now on the vita, and not only that it will contain all of the DLCs that the PS3 version had along with new content that the original didnt have, that is a plus for me and I am pretty sure fans of the series will buy it again or buy it now if they havent before.
The same logic will apply for most other games that are coming out that are ports. You also have to realize some people like playing games on the road, if you are deciding on buying a game system, the main question is you should ask yourself: Should I buy it so I can go and play these games on the road or should I buy the other alternative for a bigger screen at home? Not the way you are asking, graphics again arent a issue and shouldnt be a reason to buy a game system. Portability, Software Library and features should always sway a consumer who is thinking about buying a PSVita before graphics.
The PSVita is $250 dollars while the PS3 is currently 299.99-349.99 (bundle) also, I guess I'll get the PSVita if I used the $$$ logic.
Truth is, Sony has made these mistakes in the past but just like the PSP I don't believe the Vita will fail, but it will struggle unless it can bring games out that can not be found anywhere else. Meaning no more remakes, but something built from the ground up specifically for the Vita itself.
This will be up to the first/second and mostly third party developers, nothing anyone else can do about, Sony will never have the same selling power as Nintendo, so their best best is to depend on the third party developers, hopefully they will not take as long as they did with the PSP.
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