thismeintiel said:
ZaneWane said:
thismeintiel said:
ZaneWane said:
thismeintiel said:
Lol, wow, that got ugly real quick. I didn't think I was gone for that long. 
Anyway, you guys bringing up shipments and profits are making yourselves look ridiculous. And that's not to say those things don't matter in the big picture, cause they do, but these discussions/debates have ALL been about SOLD THROUGH numbers, not shipped. If you really just HAVE to talk about it, I'm sure their are other threads dealing with that topic.
As for the actual argument, all signs are pointing to the PS3 actually outselling the 360. Heck, even if we adjusted the PS3 numbers to the same ~2 million gap the 360 has between shipments and sales, it would still win 2011 by ~300K.
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what signs
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The official sales data we have for the US, EU, and Japan. The PS3 and 360 were practically tied amongst those three regions (PS3 sales were more spread out, while 360 had big US sales), however the PS3 traditionally sells better overall in the area outside of those (what we would call Others). Of course, the only official word I remember last year in Others was from Australia, when in late Oct Sony announced that NPD AUS had them ahead of the 360 for the whole year and currently it had them outselling it by 3-1 since 2011's PS3 price cut. Also, the bolded sentence in my post says a lot, too.
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what about rest of the world
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Like I said, overall the PS3 traditionally does better in the Others region. Another important point I raised in another thread is the 360's "true" shipments for the year. What I mean by that is that at the end of 2010, there were only ~600K (if my memory serves me right) 360's in the channel, while normally there is ~2 million. To make up for such so levels, MS had to ship ~1 million extra units in Q1 2011. If MS had been able to ship enough 360's in 2010, that would have decreased 2011's shipment numbers by that same ~1 million. So the numbers would have looked more like ~13.9 million for 2011, and not the 14.9 million it does have. In other words, there would be little need for further debate if that hadn't happened.
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