Was MS Wrong When They Claimed The #1 Spot For HW Sales WW?

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amaral_slb said:
Hey zhao, keep thinking that the 360 won 2011, it will happen, even if not in reality it will still be the winner in your head.

Pathetic how we are in a site that tracks consoles sold to consumer, and we still hear defensive people saying: "Well what matters for the companies is shipped numbers so technically 360 won..."

Discussion about console sales are never about shipped in this site, it is always about using shipped numbers to understand if we are correctly tracking console sales.

At this point in the game, everything points for the PS3 to be the best sold to consumer (for the defensive) home console of 2011

When next Q numbers come we will be 100% sure of who won by how much, but to come in here RIGHT NOW, and say with a straight face that the 360 won, is setting yourself to look like a fool in the end. You can win, but if you play poker you understand how much of an underdog you are considering the numbers we have.

And continue with the biased talk to whichever console you love to death, it´s pure entertainment how much someone prefers do defend a console instead of playing games with it.

1. Microsoft Profit as a whole company: 6.62 Billion
2. Xbox Division Profit: 528 Million
3. 360 shipments: 8.2 million
4. January to December 2011 - 14.9m 360 Shipped, YOY increase from 2010. 
5. Lifetime 360 Shipments = 65.8 Million

1. Sony Profit as a whole company: 2.038 Billion LOSS
2. PS Division Profit: 1.1 billion LOSS
3. PS3 Shipments: 6.5 million
4. January to December 2011 - 14.1m PS3 Shipped, YOY decrease from 2010. 
5. Lifetime PS3 Shipments - 62 Million

By all accounts, 360 did win 2011.

Do you really think that our notions of winning (which seems to be sold to consumer) actually mean anything? 

Corporate victory is measured by shipped. I personally go by shipped and I am the 360 fan authority here :P. Seems this is just grasping at straws to salvage the year for PS3.