| happydolphin said:
"the fact that the 64 brought it to a reasonable audience prior to the PS1 is enough to argue that Nintendo brought it to the masses first" awesome... but that wasn't my point "making motion gaming mainstream " you're falling into the same habit from before of saying i've said things i haven't said making something mainstream has absolutely nothing to do with when you bring it to market just the market penetration of the product ( to my knowledge ) thats why people say the iphone made smartphones mainstream even though several smartphones existed before it
I never said you said that. I'M SAYING THAT. My barometer in judging which system brought it to the masses first is a sales threshold considered reasonable. The Super Nintendo has relatively small total sales as compared to the PS2, yet it and the Genesis introduced 16-bit gaming to the masses. If another console 10 years later, also 16-bits (think GBA), managed to sell much more and also offer 16-bits, will you say the new system brought it to the masses? NO. So timing is important, and a reasonable base threshold of HW sales is needed to say a system brought it to the masses. My post, my point. |
"Where is the proof that Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft used the VECTREX in its design ideas?"
none, i'm just going by my common sense i guess
btw i didn't mean to give the impression that i believe that they derived their designs exclusively from the vectrex as i was only using it as an example
what i believe is that they derived their designs from the vectrex, other consoles like it and other devices that used analog sticks
"My barometer in judging which system brought it to the masses first is a sales threshold considered reasonable..."
ok well, therefore, you are making a point unrelated to mine then, as i'm talking about my issue with saying that the n64 could be more mainstream than its rival that outsold it by a wide margin
edit : "So whatever these unknown devices are, they were not successful enough to be considered valid in saying they brought it to the masses. Otherwise, why have we not heard of them, where is the noise they generated?"
? well first off i've already said the wii was the most successful but beyond that you haven't heard of webcams? or more specifically gaming on webcams?
sure console gamers like the ones on this site aren't going to lend much attention to webcam gaming but regardless its there, is a form of motion gaming and is to a certain extent popular
