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o_O.Q on 31 January 2012
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happydolphin said:

o_O.Q said:

 i didn't deny that the dual shock was an afterthought

the main point i tried to make before is that if nintendo fans can credit nintendo with making motion gaming mainstream because of the wii's sales 

then how can they also say that for the n64 ( in terms of analog tech ) when it sold far less than its competitor that had analogs?

 

and i have and continue to give nintendo credit for adding their own take on the technology and also sony and microsoft 

You unintentionally discredit them by mentioning the Vectrex. It is 100% irrelevant, until somebody with hands-on experience can tell us it used pressure sensitivity and was controlled by the thumb. Otherwise, it has 0 relevance and only serves to discredit Nintendo's effort.

As I said to Oni, the fact that the 64 brought it to a reasonable audience prior to the PS1 is enough to argue that Nintendo brought it to the masses first, not the other way around.

As for motion controls, in what case was motion controls introduced to gaming, but at the same time not bring it to the masses? The power glove? This time answer the question bud.

" You unintentionally discredit them by mentioning the Vectrex. It is 100% irrelevant"

how is mentioning the work that was built upon by microsoft, nintendo and sony irrelevant?... or do you believe nintendo came up with analogs on their own?

 

"the fact that the 64 brought it to a reasonable audience prior to the PS1 is enough to argue that Nintendo brought it to the masses first"

awesome... but that wasn't my point "making motion gaming mainstream " you're falling into the same habit from before of saying i've said things i haven't said

making something mainstream has absolutely nothing to do with when you bring it to market just the market penetration of the product ( to my knowledge )

thats why people say the iphone made smartphones mainstream even though several smartphones existed before it

 

"As for motion controls, in what case was motion controls introduced to gaming, but at the same time not bring it to the masses?"

i'm confused by your question but yes i can think of motion gaming that existed before the wii

off the top of my head motion gaming with web cameras, certain arcade games etc

( i'm quite sure there are several examples but i really don't konw much about motion gaming's history, but the wii definitely was not the first but it is undoubtedly the most successful )