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happydolphin said:

o_O.Q said:

"wikipedia says Ape Escape is the only one that made full use of it"

lol can you quote the part that says so?

Do I have to do all your homework? :P j/k. Here it is bud:

"Released in 1999, the PlayStation hit Ape Escape became the first game to explicitly require DualShock/Dual-Analog-type controllers, with its gameplay requiring the use of both analog sticks."

You're right here, I confused this with posts online. Most users were saying it was the only title to require Dual Shock and that made full use of it. Wikipedia only says it's the first. Good thing you asked for the quote :). Then again, it did release in 1999, so being the first title and releasing only a year before the PS2 gives you mostly a year to hope for another title to make fully required use of the DualShock and making full use of its features.

"RE, MGS, FF, and all these flagships used the Dual Analog in very limited ways so as to ensure full backwards compatibility with the original PS1 controller"

how do you add limited support for analogs? as far as i would think you either have the capability or you don't

Nah, it didn't work that way. Some games only mapped the joystick controls to D-pad input, like FF for instance as far as I remember. One thing is certain most games didn't have pressure sensitivity. In that sense, a game like Ape Escape had full support while a game like FF had limited support. It's a fact if you lurk online abit on the topic (which I did I advise you to do it too, it'll save us both some time). ;)

"I understood your intent, but watch the bait and switch, it makes it hard to debate."

thats the thing... i didn't do that, you clearly said i said something i did not

Sounds good. So do we drop the "sales volume means bringing it to the masses argument", since you don't agree with that anyways? Let me know.

" you mostly a year to hope for another title to make fully required use of the DualShock and making full use of its features."

not having something required suddenly means that you can't use it to its full ability? and besides that, what control features did prior games not make use of?

"like FF for instance"

FF is a dumb example to use for this context obviously because it isn't a game that allows for control in 3D

much better examples would be as i mentioned before 3D games such as mgs, resident evil and spyro

 

""I understood your intent, but watch the bait and switch, it makes it hard to debate."

thats the thing... i didn't do that, you clearly said i said something i did not"

"Sounds good. So do we drop the "sales volume means bringing it to the masses argument",since you don't agree with that anyways?"

that wasn't what you accused me of saying so i don't see why you would quote that as its completely unrelated

and as i said before i only reffered to that point because nintendos fans tend to speak of the wii in that context but when it comes to the n64 things suddenly change