-Why I Pirate- Is piracy justifiable?

[Euphoria14]

SecondWar said:

Euphoria14 said:

Well that settles my internal debate then. I will no longer pay for movies, music or games since I don't own what I bought. Gonna just keep on chugging along.

Now, does borrowing fall into this same category you described, because from the looks of it it should right? If I lend Dark Souls to 4 different people at work I robbed Namco and FROM Software of money. I costed movie studios money when I recorded movies off of HBO on VHS. I costed the music industry money when I would record music off of the radio. I costed them money my whole life and probably so did almost everyone here because I doubt nobody here ever borrowed anything from anyone without sending a small check to someone in order to prevent themselves from robbing them of a sale.

Bunch of thieves...

Point is, the way I look at it is that if I buy something, it is mine. I buy an album, so I should reserve the right to do what I want with the content on that disc since I paid to have what is on that disc. I hate this day and age where you don't own anything, even though the prices are absurdly high. If I only own the plastic but not the data then only charge me for the plastic.

 

You're not paying for the song but rather the right to listen to the song.

Fuck that shit. These are the same people who put their songs on Youtube for us to listen to at no cost while making money from the advertising.

 

Maybe it is more of a case of them getting with the times than giving a bogus reasons as to why we don't actually own anything we spend our hard earned money on. Even when free they can earn money. It is just a case of them wanting more.

As far as I'm aware, renting companies like Netflix, Blockbuster and LoveFilm etc have an agreement with film companies that allows them to rent out the films. You don't, although if you not making a career out of it I doubt they'll ever try and hunt you down. You're also forgetting that when you record movies off TV, you've probably recorded the adverts as well, so the money is still finding its way back to the film company. 

As for paying just for the plastic, they are very few things in the world were that is ever the case. Just about every product has a mark-up on it, otherwise nobody would be making any money. Whenever you buy something, you are always entering into an agreement with whoever you're buying it off. With intangible products, that agreement tends to be different to tangible products. 

I get all that, I even mentioned that when they post it for free on Youtube they make money off the advertising. When it is played on the radio it has commercials too, but unlike TV those commercials don't interrupt the song. They actually don't interrupt the shows or movies on channels like HBO either since they don't have adverts. That is part of the reason I pay a subscription cost to watch those channels.

As for the next paragraph, that isn't what I am arguing really. What I am saying is that if I am buying a DVD I should own everything on that disc and if not, then I should only be charged for what is legally mine upon purchase. Does it seem to work that way? Obviously not, so this is how I react to it.

If they have rights as owners then so should I.

It is like with PS3 not too long ago. If they had it their way we wouldn't actually own anything that we buy, but rather be renting them and only be allowed to do with them what the corporations tell us we can do with it, even though we bought it and OWN it.

It is obviously a mind set that tends to get me a lot of disagrees, so I end up agreeing to disagree.