Was MS Wrong When They Claimed The #1 Spot For HW Sales WW?

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thismeintiel said:

kain_kusanagi said:
If Sony even remotely thought they had won they would have tooted their own horn. MS tooted theirs because they knew they had the numbers to back it up. The fact that Sony hasn't tried to claim winning numbers means MS was right. Everyone on the outside of the industry is just going by guesses and estimates based on polls and fuzzy tracking systems. MS knows what they've sold because they track it internally through their distributors and retailers, just like Sony does. If Sony had beat MS, they would have claimed it. MS claimed it and Sony didn't because they both know it's true.

Ok, I guess 2 people still in denial.  You do realize Ballmer said over 66 million sold?  Was he right about that?  Nope.  Also, he said #1 in HW throughout the world, while taking about the 360 and Kinect.  So it seems he was including Kinect in with their HW.  Besides, Sony has won the past 2 years and to my knowledge have said jack all about it, so why would this year be any different?  Then, of course, you have the other sales charts that have been released that don't back up a 360 victory.  Look, even Seece conceded that if Sony doesn't report unexpectedly low numbers in their shipments, they truly won. 

How are we in denial? The numbers point to MS/360 being the winner here. Until Sony comes out with their shipment figures and we get some firm numbers on how many are actually on store shelves, it looks much more likely that the 360 won here.