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theprof00 on 20 January 2012
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RolStoppable said:
theprof00 said:

Seems to be bogus? Haha. NICE COUNTER. No evidence, just words. Classic.

:D at the remake. Hilarious how the first level of NSMBDS is SMB level 1, and all the enemies from SMW are used. It's a throwback. It's a revival. It is so obviously geared toward the nostalgia crowd. Even all the ads showed level one and growing huge and just running through the level, at the end of the commercial, it's showing world 1-2.

 

I  OWN the game, and what made me buy it was that it was a throw back. That commercial is what sold me.

The proof is in your thread from 2009. You couldn't drive your points home. You had to concede that there are gaping holes in your hypothesis. Sorry that I didn't see your response to c0rd the first time. The formating of that post is messed up, likely due to site changes.

The first level of NSMB isn't the same as the first level of SMB, you must have been tricked by the blend of the commercial. Also, it doesn't show world 1-2 at the end of the commercial. It's actually just an underground section of NSMB's 1-1, just look at the top screen where it even says 1-1.

And this brings us to a crossroad. Either your memory is good for nothing or you are lying about owning the game. Pick your poison.

The points about NSMB are really simple things. The fact that you mess them up this badly seriouly undermines your credibility in this discussion.

The point is right here:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4389537

Where is the counter?

In that response, cOrd created some of his own assumptions. He asked if I could do the same with the HD consoles. The answer is no, it's not possible, because many demographics are served equally. To represent it metaphorically, Mario and the other nintendo franchises are to Halo, what fitness games are to racing games, with the exception that HD also dominates JRPG, and third person adventure, and Western RPG, etc. The difference, clearly, is that nintendo's next demographic is not a traditional core, but expanded audience, where the opposite is true of the HD consoles.

The other problem cOrd had was that he said if wii fit buyers seldom buy other games (one of my points showing how small the core was) then attach rate would be absurdly high:

 

To which I responded:

"To those who are talking about attach rates:

360 is about 8 or 9

say people who bought wii fit bought wii fit, have wii sports, and possibly another fitness game. Like I said, the numbers aren't completely rigid, there is always bound to be some variability. But let's say those people do only own 2 games. 51M wii owners*6 attach rate = 306M 20M wii fit owners*2games=40M. 

266M games /31M owners =8.6 attach rate. And all of a sudden, wii attach rate makes sense with the other traditional console's attach rate."

This doesn't even factor in that you also get wii play with a second controller, but I was being generous with the statistics. The attach wouldn't be absurdly high in any respect.

Also, his point that "Wii fit only came out last year, I know it's a system seller, but that is pushing it", does not take into account owners who only own 1 or 2 games, and then bought wii fit and are content with that.

 

He also mentions that he doesn't understand the number because how could every single one buy SMG. Again, it's called overlapping of demographics. Though extremely muted.It's not that every core bought a copy, but that a great many did, since it's the only mario on the system at the time. People buy Nitnendo consoles for the first party. The same can't be said about the HD consoles, because the HD consoles have such a wide variety of traditional core game genres that 360 isn't all about master chief. The same can't be said about the wii's traditional core genres.