At $400 billion, Apple is worth more than Greece

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kowenicki said:

rocketpig said:

kowenicki said:
Jobs was a visionary?  kind of...  a good business man?  no way... a good salesman?  definitely... a bully ?  for sure.

So you own a Mac, an iPhone, and an iPad but Steve Jobs wasn't really a visionary and was good at tricking people into buying Apple's products.

If that is the case, why do you own all those products?

Spin it how you want. I stand by my full statement. There is a lot of luck in any business, Jobs got lucky when a young Englishman called Ive walked in the door. I like I've design. I own his products as far as I'm concerned.

Without the software built around the hardware, the iPhone, iMac, and iPad are really pretty paperweights.

Ives is a great industrial designer. Probably the best in the world. Still, at best he's only responsible for half of Apple's success and even that is a stretch. Without iOS, without the App Store, without OS X, Apple is basically Sony but slightly better.