| theprof00 said: |
| The difference between a console like wii, and the HD twins, is that if you're a fan of racers, you can subsist wholly on racers. If you're a fan of jrpgs, you can subsist entirely on those. If you're into shooters, look no further. Platformers? They have tons! On the wii, those demographics just literally cannot exist singularly. They have to overlap, because there isn't enough. |
I understand what you're saying, but there is one thing you can't find on the HD twins: Nintendo games, PC exclusives (Blizzard games, others), and interchangeably the exlusives of one or the other, depending on the sole console you chose (if you go single-plat). So even if you have all genres in massive catering, you also have alot of content you don't want, since most trad gamers are generally fans of a studio or type of studio. e.g. Not all racers will appeal. In other words, there are many cases where a trad gamer may not be singularly satisfied on the HD twins. Some may be, but many aren't. I as a Nintendo, Capcom, Sony and Blizzard fan would not be singularly satisfied on an xbox. Then again, that won't stop me from enjoying the COD experience on the 360, since I find it has the best trad controller, but point remains that 360 doesn't singularly satisfy me. So this post snippet doesn't hold for a majority of gamers as far I as understand.
| Not to say that wii doesn't have great games, because it does. It's just that they get drowned out. I personally love games like Muramasa:demon blade, and little king's story (so glad it's coming to vita). It's just too bad that your typical Nintendo gamer is pretty superficial and doesn't stray away from mario and zelda. It's even shocking to me that metroid gets as little attention as it deserves. |
Of course it does, that's part of our shared understanding of why trad gamers would care about the little Wii! ;) Drowned out or not a mature trad gamer would understand not to get entangled by shovelware, so drowning out doesn't matter. Most trad Nintendo gamers enjoy games from Capcom, Konami, Squaresoft et al. because they mostly made their subsistence on the NES, Nintendo's console, where many of us started our love for the company, as fans. So no, most fans don't just stick to Mario and Zelda, we also enjoy exclusives from other companies like capcom and others.
| Notice that the sales of NSMB Wii is incredibly heavy loaded in the USA, where Mario always had the most popculture appeal. Every other mario sells proportionately within their regions, usually, USA-~25%=Europe, Europe-~25m=Japan. USA NSMB is over 50% of the other regions. |
I had a personal discussion with Rol on NSMB DS, a mario game. You will be hard pressed to find how massive its appeal was in Japan.
| score | US | EU | JPN | Total | ||
| New Super Mario Bros. (DS) | Platform | 8.73 | 8.84 | 8.34 | 6.38 |
26.79 |
Maybe a good comparison would be NSMB DS versus NSMB Wii, to show how much of NSMBWii's sales volume is due to multiplayer/bundling/console_vs_handheld and other such factors. Nonetheless, the same can be said about COD being played by kids and multiplayer, marketing and whatnot. That's why I lump them together (NSMBWii-COD).
| Furthermore, again, Halo-CoD is looking at one aspect of the system among a hundred other fan favorites. The average 360 owner owns about 10 games, and there are more than 10 different genres among their top selling games. You're looking at, say, racing fans, who buy a 360 to play racers. You don't have that kind of demographic on the wii, because nobody buys wii just for racers because there is really only mkwii. The same goes for platformers, there is really only mario. What that means is that, if you're a wii traditional core, you're buying all the best names they put out. Metroid, zelda, mario, mkwii, nsmb, galaxy. |
Understood, but not completely relevant in light of the simple fact that Halo, being the flaship title, will most likely appear in the games library of all 360 trad gamers, though all other games in their libraries may vary. That's wh y I like it as a barometer. Don't lump Halo-COD, COD appears in the libraries of such varying types of gamers. Halo does too, but to a much lesser extent.
