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hatmoza said:
theprof00 said:
Icyedge said:
hatmoza said:
Icyedge said:
A sequel would be nice, was a very good game. My only big grip with the game is that they used a demon to designate liberty and an angel to designate order. That doesnt make sense outside religious thinking.


That's pretty extreme way to look at things...

What do you mean? Devil/angel, good/evil are religious notions. And since the meter was freedom/order, it sometime wouldnt make sense even inside religious thinking. Some freedom action werent evil per se, but would still go toward the demon part of the meter. I know they didnt wanted to put freedom/order up there, but they surely could find better then a demon/angel.

The bar wasn't liberty and order.

The bar was chaos-freedom-order.

Freedom was picking neither. Chaos was disrupting everything and turning into a demon. order was staying with katherine.


I mean I know his understanding about the meter is wrong, but that wasn't what I was talking about. It was the idea of someone hating something in a game  for having a religious backround that i find funny. A silly animation that serves as a meter in the form of shoulder angels bothering someone is a stupid reason  to hate something in a game.

Religious influences are well integrated in culture and language and are not going to simply disappear. I'm not preaching and I'm not a religious person, believe me, but that post made zero sense to me. If someone said they hated the shoulder angels because they were straight creepy, that would be a more valid reason to hate the symbolic figures.


Who are you to decide what is or isnt a valid reason for criticism? I find your attitude very disrectpecful. I did explain why it was a grip to me (which you didnt understand, or it might be my poor english). Im not hating on the game, the meter is actually the only thing I disliked about the game.

Let me re-explain. For an agnostic, action arent good or bad. Chaos isnt bad, order isnt good. I didnt like that they label action as such. But its not only that, like I said earlier, the situation was extremely aggravated by the fact that the metaphor didnt work, some actions in the game that would go toward the chaos side would not even be considered evil by religious standards, vice-versa. Thats actually where most of my irritation came from. And then, this was all aggravated by the fact that the meter is shown very often. I think the game could have used more imagination when it comes to the meter and the action you do.

P.S.: I like tons of things that have a religious background.