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brendude13 on 13 January 2012
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Reasonable said:
brendude13 said:
Some people are still undecided about who won 2011, even Reasonable who's word I would take over anyone else's.

But doesn't VGC say that the PS3 won by 300k, and NPD say that the Xbox 360 was 900k units more overtracked than the PS3, suggesting that it won by 1.2m?

Am I somewhere on the right lines?


The situation as I understand it is:

a- VG numbers show PS3 winning (I think with the numbers you indicate but not sure)

b - MS clearly said they were number 1 in US (which is correct) and seemed to claim number 1 worldwide (but only verbally so far as I know and in a far less clear manner)

c) MS posted some numbers that could be sold to consumer or sold to retail and there is no clear statement of which (although IGN comments imply sold to consumer but don't totally clarify this IMHO)

d) December NPD was out of alignment with VG numbers for the region for December prompting adjustments

e) with reference to d) above I'm not sure if all adjustments are in or if the situation is still fluid.

 

So in short I personally feel like I've got a car that has three fuel displays and all three are showing a different level so I don't know which one is right.

Your summary seems right based on what I've seen but again I'm not sure I've seen all the numbers driving the confusion.

Actually thinking about it I feel like Drake in the hallucination sequences in Uncharted 3.

a) Yes, I was following Seece's thread, VGC said PS3 has won by 300k. I don't know if these VGC numbers people are referring to are the ones in Seece's thread or ones that were adjusted at a later date.

b) + c) Microsoft said there are 66m Xbox users (then told IGN that they meant sold). If sold means SOLD then that means that VGC is undertracking by about 2.4m and I'm guessing that means NPD is undertracking by about 3.6m. They could have meant shipped but that still means that 2.4m - 3.6m 360's are sitting on store shelves right now, which I'm guessing is highly unlikely.

d) + e) Gotcha. I have no idea what the NPD sales are, I'm just adding or subtracting their differences from the VGC numbers, hopefully that's still fairly accurate.

I know how you feel, absolute confusion, I never really cared about sales until now, what a bad time to join in.