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kowenicki said:
psrock said:
kowenicki said:
Turkish said:
Argh_College said:
shanbcn said:
360 still overtracked quite badly.

yeah yeah right Lol You think that theres >2 Milion on shelves, over on U.S maybe since i dont know what adjustments were made but Way undertracked in others.

Undertracked? Where? Europe? Japan? The 2 strongest markets of the competitor? Its becoming more and more clear MS shipped too many, they overestimated the demand. This time we also didnt hear anything from that xbox dude(something with major) who always bragged about NPD numbers.

its aaron greenberg that announces 360 numbers and yes we did hear from him actually.  The NPD numbers for the 360 are very impressive when compared to the competition.... basically obliterating the competition again... they only look poor when we have all been looking at VGC numbers for the last 4 weeks.  

...and you cant ship too many.... they arent sent unsolicited to retailers you know.

Retailers MAY order too many and end up returning them if they are allowed, but it isnt channel stuffing.  Channel stuffing doesnt really exist.

Did you just say channel suffing doesn't exist? seriously someone, help me find the millions of times you have accused Sony of doing so. I don't know what's worst the vgchartz numbers before npd or MS saying they sold more than 66 million before the NPD.


Go look. 

The only time I can even remember referring to it is when I have said previously that it is possible to have over-supply through over ordering by the retailer... but that is irrelevant as it just leads to fewer being shipped later or/and retailers sending them back.

By all means go check...  shouldnt be too difficult if I have said it millions of times.

oh... and now it IS sold 66m not shipped?

ffs. lol  

Sad times for VGC, if its off by 2m which is clearly is if 66m is definatley sold, then why should we trust that the Wii and PS3 numbers are close to being right either, for all we know they could all be off by 2m+

Think from now on ill just stick to quaterly shipment statments, its the only thing thats accurate.