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Seece on 13 January 2012
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psrock said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
People, MS already told us how many they shipped. The problem is a lot of those shipments are haven't been sold yet.

Why are you so arrogant 0_o, they havn't told us how many they've shipped, they've said 66m+. They did exactly the last last CES with 50m, and shipped 800k above that.

Like I said, if they ship 66.5 that's 2.8m on shelves. Which is far too much.

While I agree 3 million is a lot, I still would understand why there is so many 360's out there. Everyone's expectation fell short, way short. MS expected huge numbers, and made sure they had enough. Even in 2010, when stock was an issue they sold over 1.7 million. Retailers ordered a lot but consumers did not show up. 

As as the Europe thing, seriously, come on. I think numbers are down over there too for all the consoles. 

Oh I'm sure you would, why not bump it up to 5m and have the PS3 overtake the 360 in LTD sales?

MS don't ship all their stock the first week of December, they ship throughout the month, retailers wouldn't keep ordering through the month if sales were flat/down, not to the levels you expect anyway.

You may well be right on Europe, you can't strike it out yet though. MS did extensive advertising there this holiday so it is a possibility.

it's fair to say some overshipping has happened, but not to the extent of 3m.

Let say the 360 is overtracked in Europe or others, We know the UK, it did well. But where would these numbers be? It's not France, Germany or Italy. Software numbers say otherwise. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_live#Availability