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psrock said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
It seems the horse was too high.

MS stuffed the channels, mostly because retailers ordered based on Black FRiday numbers. Can;t blame them, I never expected anything less than 2.5 million. And every console is down.

You really do show yourself up sometimes psrock, years gone you mock people for claiming Sony stuff the channels, but the first opportunity you get to say the same about MS and you're in there like a flash.

There's really few other options explanation here Seece, unless the 360 had a miraculous  sales in the UK, where are all these extra consoles. The PS3 had other places to hide them, the 360 doesnt. Relax, stop being defensive and realize it was a simple miscalculation by the retailers. That's all. 

I'm open to that conclusion, sure. But you're talking as if you have all the facts, which is exactly how Sony fans were acting before the 66m X360 comment.

You really don't know how well X360 has sold in any other regions and how effective MS's marketing has been, thismenitel is right about one thing, we're gonna have to wait until Q1 shipments to really determin this.

My comment still stands though, you're suppose to be one of the reasonable ones on the site. I'm not being defensive either, just find it absurd people are so keen for PS3 to have won, they call it so soon without even PS3 shipments, before the 66m figure an

I look at the PAL charts weekly, there is nothing, zero indication besides in the UK, the 360 was doing any better than any other year. As far I am concerned, the UK keeps the 360 close, nowhere else is it a force. And, I also think  Kinect is also overtracked by a huge number.

If they come out and say 66.5 shipped, that's 3m on shelves, I just don't buy it, sorry, about the only company that could get away with stuffing that much is Apple.

Also we already have 2m Kinects on shelves ...