Should guns be outlawed in America?

[leatherhat]

enrageorange said:

leatherhat said:

brendude13 said:

leatherhat said:

brendude13 said:

leatherhat said:
Its not about home defense or hunting. Its about making sure the people can always "take care" of the government if they overstep their bounds, which America has apparently forgotten.

That sounds ridiculous and totally not feasible in this day and age.

I doubt a group of rednecks could topple the American government.

I doubt a group of 3rd world muslims could topple the American millitary. Oh wait.

I would hardly say they toppled the American military. It's barely even a war, soldiers are meant to fight, not play hide and seek.

Soldiers are expected to win, which they did. 

The Iraqis managed to kill 4000 american soldiers in 10 years. The USA government won't concede the United States unless they lose their entire army. Ofc that is most likely to happen as I believe nearly all US soldiers will defect, but if they don't, it will be a bloody slaughter. Yes the civilians will be able to kill footsoldiers and destroy humvees and trucks, but what will they do against attack helecoptors, tanks, battleships, and jets, ballistic missles, and propaganda. 

Either way never going to happen. If enough people are discontent with the government they will relect new candidates. The media/corporations/etc. can only sway civilians so much, and if the government decides to ignore or obviously rig elections, the USA military would obviously not intervein if the people start rebellion. And if a specific group of people apposes the will of the majority they will fail as well. Contorary to popular belief, Republicans are not the only ones with guns. Over 30% of independants and democrats own guns, so even if most Republicans are the ones that decide to rebel, there will still be more people on the opposing side with guns.

So Vietnam was a victory by these standards? 

How much more obvious do they need to get?