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NotStan said:

Going by your assumptions, the impressive 9 or so attach ratio that 360 had a few years ago wouldn't make any sense, people buy games that are appealing to them, just because COD applies to both the casual and hardcore gamers does not in fact make it a casual. FPS genre as a whole had always been considered a hardcore market, just because COD has emerged and manages to captivate such large sales doesn't necessarily mean that it's now a game for casuals as a whole, every console has people that only play a few hours of the said game - FIFA, COD, Wii Sports, Just Dance w/e. Judging by the tie ratios of games per console, 360 has barely few of those, or if there are en masse, then the hardcore gamers must have considerably more games in order to balance the imbalance that would be created by people who only have 3/4 games as you so insinuated.

Despite it appearing so, COD is far from casual, as many people still play it and most do it competitively, some even make a living from it - by playing it for extensive hours to create videos for the community on YouTube.

Really the whole "FPS is for casuals" is one big pile of bullshit, I don't even know how we got here in the first place, taking into account that it all started from sales.

If that FPS is for casuals is in fact true according to some in this thread, then PS3 is as much of a casual console as 360 looking at the top selling games that are found there, and if FPS is casual, then so is Sport, Racing, Platformers just as much is Dancing, Music games w/e.

Attach ratio? You lost me.

I wasn't saying FPS's are for casual gamers only and I doubt other people are as well, it's just a genre that is popular amongst casual gamers. I don't know if I made this point, but it's the gamers that are casual, not the game, I play Call of Duty and I'm definitely not a casual gamer, but I would go as far as saying the majority of Call of Duty players are casual gamers.

As for PS3 being just as much as a casual console, you pointed out sales. If you exclude the Call of Duty games, the top 10 games for the PS3 and the Xbox 360 are pretty different, but that has been bought up so many times in other threads so I don't really need to say anything about it.

Some of those genres are as casual as FPS but many others aren't.

Message me if you want to say anything else because this is going off topic.