Seece said:
thismeintiel said:
Seece said:
thismeintiel said:
Seece said:
thismeintiel said:
You're right, we'll have to wait for shipments before all is truly said and done. However, I fully expect adjustments to again be in favor of the PS3.
And yes, it was impossible for the 360 to destroy a full 1.5 million lead the PS3 had over it. It's ok, you can admit it. It won't hurt, I promise. 
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Get over yourself. It's nothing to do with paining me to admit PS3 has won, if it has congratz to people that said it would, Sony and the PS3 ... I'm just calling out your ridiculous assumption it was impossible. Just because it didn't happen didn't mean it was impossible like you claimed.
You seem like a bright guy, don't believe you're stupid enough to actually think it was impossible ...
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I wrote why I thought it was impossible with the given circumstances at the time of the OP and it turned out to be. Even with the massive holiday sales it had in the US (I'm sure they had great deals around the world, too) for Nov and Dec and having the US in its pocket (the largest market for the holidays), it still didn't pull it off. Like I said, they definitely were able to decrease the gap by more than I thought (barring any adjustments), but that doesn't change my opinion that it was impossible.
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Right ... and like kowen says, all they had to do was cut in Europe and it would have turned into possible, thus not impossible. I mean to say it's impossible is stupid.
there is a ton of stuff they could have done to make it not impossible, unless you think it was impossible for MS to get another 200k sold? I guess cutting $50 in mid december wouldn't have mustered that then?
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Sure they could have got another 200K IF they cut the price. Of course, that would have made the gap still ~100K in the PS3's favor.
Anyway, the great holiday deals in the US more than made up for a price cut in Europe, a region PS3 already dominates anyway, even with the 360 already being cheaper there. I would guess a $50 cut in all regions would have lead to those gift cards being ~$50, as opposed to the $100 ones the 360's been getting for 2 months. This wold have lead to slightly higher sales in Europe, but slightly lower sales in the US, so pretty much evening out.
Of course these are all IFs, which didn't happen, so there's really no point in arguing them. The fact just remains that the 360 couldn't become the #1 console WW like MS was predicting it would from June to Oct. But they do get due credit for being to drop the gap so low in these last 2 months.
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Talk about finalised ... it's still completely up in the air which console will take it.
And yeah, lots of if's you spouted there, and your final point was something I wasn't even debating, just your use of impossible. Which is still (and always will be ) wrong.
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Not really. I think most people have accepted the PS3 took it. The most the 360 can hope for next week is a tie, which would still have the PS3 up by ~230K.
And its just your opinion concerning the word impossible. It was my opinion, and still is, that it was impossible. Maybe if MS had dropped the price of the 4GB, 250GB, and Kinect SKU's by $50 as soon as the PS3 had, it would have pulled it off. Of course, it was apperent MS wasn't going to do that when I did the OP, so it wasn't going to happen.
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