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Khuutra on 18 December 2011
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LordTheNightKnight said:
Chrizum said:

Neither reviews or sales decide the quality of a product. I'd say nothing does, as quality is a subjective and complex concept with no real way measuring it. The best way to measure it though, is people's opinions. And neither reviews or sales have much to do with how much people value the product. Many people fall for hype and advertizing, but end up disliking games. Good legs is often a very slightly positive sign of quality, but only that, it doesn't really say much.

Quality isn't entirely subjective. For example, a burger with an actual beef patty is objectively of higher quality than one that isn't.

Even in stories, you can objectively look at elements, like characterization and how logical the story is (and I mean logic in the sense of a reasonable flow, not in terms of being sensible and realistic). But whether you like a particular story is still up to you. That doesn't change whether a plot hole exists in a story, or whether a character's motivations make sense.

That's how you get the notion of "so bad, it's good". Objectively bad, but subjectively enjoyable.


This is nonsense. There are going to be people who enjoy patties that are made with filler - such as sweetbreads or other organ meat - and even patties that are made with a beef substitute altogether. There is nothing objective about the quality of a beef patty inherent to its ingredients, only to the experience of it, and that's going to differ from person to person.