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HappySqurriel said:
richardhutnik said:

If you want to argue for freedom, saying people have a right to be stupid isn't a good argument. Arguments a small child would make are NOT one that strengthens your argument. If you want to argue for more freedom, what is needed is to argue such freedom would be used wisely. Think this is an argument for a nanny state? Nope, it is an argument that freedom is not to be argued for from a position of wanting to be stupid.

 

Or to simplify the questions, are you calling for a state that is made up entirely of bland joyless existence or are you the typical big-government hypocrite who wants people to not have the right to do what you don’t approve of?

Don't argue for more freedoms and rights based up a desire to do stupid things.  Stupid here isn't referring to silly things, but harmfully stupid.  I have gone to a number of Libertarian meetings, for example, and what is argued for freedom there is things that look like not being responsible.