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selnor said:
osamanobama said:

i dont see that.

to me it seems like an incredibly over hyped game that of course reviewers fell for.

then just weeks later (or days) realized how many glitches and bugs there are, many of which are game breaking.

in fact i would nominate for most unfinished game.

it seems to me it has way more bugs glitches, slowdowns, hiccups than even Crysis 2.

how none of these "juornalists" noticed these problems when they reviewed the game, is beyond me. but it seems very convienient that they just now are talking about them, after they reviewed it.

And this proves my point. Quality is subjective. 

You may thiink a film is shit. But others may not. 

@ Micheal

Saying any self respecting gamer is another way to say people who agree with my opinion. 

There is no such thing as a self respecting gamer. Just people who agree with what you consider quality and people who disagree. 

Films and game frannchises dont continue to sell unless people love them. At lest not in the milions and increasing each iteration. Sales does mean more people value that game. 

But sales don't tell you how many people really enjoyed the game. A lot of people buy Call of Duty just because it's Call of Duty. Just like a lot of people buy a brand of product just because it's that brand.

Self Respecting Gamer - a Gamer who plays more then CoD and doesn't let personal opinions judge the quality of the game. osama is letting opinions judge the game. You may not like Skyrim, but it's a good game. I for one am not a fan of the game because I don't see much improvement for Melee battles, but everyone I know who actually owns the game has put in 70 hours plus into it, and I have never heard of any game affecting a large amount of gamers like that.

Let me extend the arguement with some examples. Final Fantasy XIII-2 will sell millions just because it's a Final Fantasy game. Yet XenoBlade, a game of much higher quality, will sell crap. Yes XenoBlade is on the Wii (which definatly hurt sales), but still either way, no JRPG really has a chance to top Final Fantasy sales. Is Final Fantasy the hands down best JRPG, or is it the most well know and hyped? Many would argue that the best JRPG ever made was Chrono Trigger, or Super Mario RPG, or even Dragon Quest IX, yet despite best in genre quality, a mainstream Final Fantasy Game will always outsell these.

How are the games medium different from movies? Sales =/= Quality, simple as that.

Yes there can be bias in nominees and winners, but that's why different websites or award shows are more critically acclaimed (this goes for Movies too). Most people don't care about the Grammy's for instance, but an Oscar. Same with games, I don't care much for Spikes GOTY, but I'm interested in Gametrailers (they only supply videos for Spike), and VGC.



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