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highwaystar101 on 01 December 2011
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phinch1 said:
highwaystar101 said:
phinch1 said:


1) With this whole political correct madness, that we can't fly the English flag incase we "Offend others"

2) We can't even called christmas Fucking christmas anymore becuase it might offend others, we have to called it the  festive season now, its a joke.

1) We can, because we do. Go out during a sporting event and the St George's cross is everywhere. In every bar and in every home. It's sad, because the government even had to make an offical statement saying that it isn't banned a few years ago due to this misconception.

2) You can still call Christmas Christmas, nobody is stopping you. This is just something that seems to have stemmed out from local governments giving the period a banner term to cover a range of religious holidays around that period. Of course, the tabloids pick that up twist it, tell people the half truth and assert that it is banned. Stewart Lee explains this one well.

LoL not even going to watch the video, it has been "banned" in certain aspects mcdonalds can no longer say christmas ,its the festive season.

 

some schools no longer have the nativity play at christmas because head teachers belive it will offend other faiths, I mean come on really?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1571187/School-nativity-plays-under-threat.html

the idea of calling it "winter light festival" rather than christmas

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3367390/Christmas-banned-in-Oxford-by-council-owned-charity.html

 

why do some people not have a back bone any more

 

 

Why do some people not have a backbone? I assume that you're not referring to me, because I think I've made it clear that I feel I can say Christmas freely to whoever I like. Christmas , Christmas, Christmas. See nothing bad happened.

Or is it because I know I don't have to play the underdog? It's a shame that you didn't even have the courtesy to watch the video I provided, because it really does explain well why terms like "Winter light festival" are actually used. It's not the banning of christmas at all, it's a banner term that refers to the multitude of religious festivals during that period*, each one you can refer to individually if you wish.

Look, I live Birmingham, the city which infamously "banned" Christmas, when in reality no such thing occurred. Hymns and carols were still being played in shops and the annual Christmas market carried on as it always has done. It was that Birmingham has very large  Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu and Sikh populations. So when all the festivals during that period were referred to singularly, it was called "Winterville", but each festival could be referred to and celebrated individually too. It was only when it hit the papers that this turned into a "ban".

As for Nativity plays, that is at each schools own discretion (schools are supposed to be secular institutions after all). If a school has a significant amount of students from many religions, then it may feel it is in the best interests of the students to put on a secular play. It's not banning Christmas or anything, students are still free to celebrate it if they wish (give cards to classmates, etc). You may not like it, but some schools may like to have a secular outlook in order to accommodate their wide variety of students, whilst respecting the students personal right to celebrate their own religious festival. This is perfectly reasonable, I don't see the problem.

Let's face it, if you wanted to, you could run through the streets covered in St George's crosses bellowing Silent Night out and you wouldn't be prosecuted for it because there are no laws against doing it.

*Christmas (Christianity, Islam), Ashura (Islam), Diwali (Hinduism), Hanukkah (Judaism), Winter solstice (Pagan), etc.