Michael-5 said:
atma998 said:
Michael-5 said:
atma998 said:
As per ioi:
''As we hopefully start to make some inroads with Latin America + Mexico (3.5%), Asia (3.2%), Australia (3%), Middle East and Africa (1.2%) and the rest of Europe (10%) we should be able to start doing weekly charts for them also and obviously including them in the global chart making it more and more accurate.''
It's now time to admit you were wrong! :D
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Lol, this is still going on? What you just posted supports my claim that these games are not overtracked. The OP gives sources for game sales in regions not including Middle East and Africa (1.2%) Others Europe (10%) and parts of Asia (0-3.2%).
If a game like GT5 is near 7 million sales, and the OP says it's being overtracked by 600-700k, but ignores 10% of worldwide sales, well....there is where those missing figures come from.
think man, think before you post.
It's time to admit you are wrong. If I'm wrong I'm sure VGC would have noticed before this thread came up and changed their figures to match thse of the OP, but the OP did not include all regions in his analysis, so obviously he is wrong, and VGC and I are right.
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Oh well, I'm not saying the game is overtracked or not. What the op says is that if we compare PD numbers and the numbers he tooks on the other chart with VGC numbers, then GT5 is overtracked. Now I'm sure VGC has good reasons to show these numbers but the thing is we just don't know where it comes from and since we don't know we can assume, based on the numbers the op is talking about, that the game is overtracked.
What I was referring to with ioi post is that Latin America is 3x bigger than Africa & Middle East, something where you was obviously wrong, but you don't want to admit. :)
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Oh I see! Yea I was making assumptions on the size of Africa and the Middle East. I was wrong, but my reasoning is still correct. Others Europe plays a bigger influence on sales then I gave it credit, and Africa/Middle East plays a smaller role.
Still the OP uses sources that do not include information from Others Europe, Africa, the Middle East, and likely parts of Asia. That combines for 11-14% of worldwide sales, which is where the missing sales come from. Overall the % of sales missing in the OP is accounted for, and that's the important point I was trying to push.
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This is becoming a bit confusing. Let's try to keep it simple:
According to VGC, GT5 sold 5.29M in 2010 WW, including 3.27M in EMEAA.
The neogaf chart says it sold 2.00M in Europe (17 countries) and PD says they have shipped 230k (probably not all sold, but whatever...) in Asia. Africa and Middle East is 1.2% of 5.29M = 0.06M, which makes a total of 2.29M.
Now there is only a couple of european countries missing to have all EMEAA, right? There is still a 1 million discrepency. Other Europe counts for 10% but also contains some of the 17 countries included by neogaf (like Russia, Poland, Austria, etc.). Let's say there is still half of the other Europe not counted by neogaf, which represents 5% of WW sales, which makes another 0.26M (5% of 5.29M).
Then we have a total of 2.55M of sales for GT5 in EMEAA vs. 3.27M. Assuming there was 300k bundles like the op said, the discrepency is still of 420k.
So it seems the game was overtracked by at least 400k. Maybe I missed something and that's what I would like to know and no one has been able to explain it yet.
