kowenicki said:
maverick40 said:
kowenicki said:
Nereid said:
sales2099 said:
drkohler said:
sales2099 said:
And its more like 9 million in terms of revenue....not profit. I dont know if you follow Sony financials, but they are dripping red ink :)
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?????? "And its more like 9 million in terms of revenue" - are you that dense?
We all can read the financial reports and see that Sony, as a company, is in the red. What does this have to do with the fact that Move, as a device, is profitable on the manufacturing level, but probably not (yet) on the production level?
And here is a little surprise for you: the Kinect device is exactly on the same path as the Move device: profitable on the manufacturing level, not (yet) profitable on the production level.
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Im afraid Move isn't profitable on any level.....
MS on the other hand said that Kinect is sold at a profit, and MS actually posts profits in their quarterly earnings :)
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You cant be serious with this...
Move is likely to be more profitable than kinect anyway, are you forgetting that various companies rejected this technology because it was too expensive? Not to mention Microsoft's 500 million dollar push last holidays.
Both are definitely profitable at the margin.
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The $500m thing is bogus... its in line with the spend of all the big three on any normal holiday push and is no big deal. I have looked into this and provided the information here several times before. It really needs to stop being repeated ad nauseum as some golden nugget of information and in some way unsual.
Hell we even saw recently that Uncharted had a marketing spend of £5m in the UK alone. thats £5m ($7.5m) on one game in one country.
Nintedno also spent $500m in advertising in the final quarter of both 2009 and 2010. God knows how much sony would have spent... a lot more probably.
Its nothing special or unsual.
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Ah kowinicki, I expected more from you.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2010/10/19/microsoft-to-pour-500-million-into-kinect-launch/
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/microsoft_move_3gVmAyryJuD6px1dV7LeDP?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=
Unfortunately it isnt bogus,
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I didnt say they hadnt spent $500m.. I dont dispute that at all.
Its bogus that it is out of the ordinary. Its totally within normal limits for a holiday quarter. And people say kinect did well because they spent $500m... I say, so what!?
Like i said Nintendo spoent the same in 2010 and 2009 and they didnt even have a new product to launch.
PS the first link a kids blog on forbes.
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This is about MS spending 500m pushing ONE product, kinect. Nevermind the other millions spent alongside on other gaming related advertising.
Nintendo spent a lot of money pushing their brand and PRODUCTS in 2009 2010 (not sure of the figure but I would be very surprise if it was indeed anywhere naer 500m).
One product vs all of Nintendo's including games.
Where is the proof of Sony spending so much money or anywhere near in any holiday season with PS3? Sony admitted they can't compete with MS or Nintendo in regards to this and frankly don't have the funds to.
OT: I am glad to see that both add-ons did will. The thing about move is that it hard to know how many are in households because of multiple buys but I doubt "almost everyone" has two.
