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Runa216 said:
Michael-5 said:
Runa216 said:

Actually, you'll find that not a single N64 game is on my list, and only a few PS1 games are.  That generation sucked balls (had the technology to make games 3D, but not the ability to make them look, feel, or play like anything more than ass).  It was that transitional period and I hated it. Zelda was no better, though that was admittedly more the fault of the console than the game itself.  Hell, the Smash Brothers Series is amongst my all-time favorites, and I simply cannot return to the original Smash Brothers. 

You are a graphic whore... (not to insult, nost people are).

I think the very opposite of you, N64 expanded the limitations of gaming, and gave Nintendo the ability to add innovation and quality to all their games. I think the best Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and damn well Star Fox titles were all made on the N64. Since then Nintendo has just tried to make games that matched up in quality, only only now with some of their Wii franchises are the pseudo succeeding.

However I don't have and PS1 games on the list. Final Fantasy was best in 2D, and I never played FFIX, Front Mission, or Chrono Cross on PS1. Only Ps1 games I actually look back and would even add to my top 100 are Gran Turismo and Twisted Metal, but TMB and GT3/4 are the best of those franchises.

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA no.  

I am not a graphic whore, I never was and never will be and hate graphics whores because it's their kind who are responsible for so many of our games being more about style than substance.  But jesus dude, did you not read the part where I said "...feel, and play..."?  I was very careful with my wording so people wouldn't just go 'lolgraphicwhore'  and be done with it.  The games controlled horribly (seriously, try playing them after playing an SNES game or Gamecube game), and everything was just...annoying. Camera issues galore, control problems, tonnes of issues with polish and content, and to top off all my complaints in those departments....the games all looked like complete and utter shit. the graphics were, of course, just one part that sucked.  

What did we get for sacrificing controls, gameplay, content, depth, and graphics?  better sounds and a third dimension.  There's a reason I'm playing more games like LIMBO and Outland as opposed to buying into the hype of games like Battlefield or Crysis which sell themsleves on their  supposedly amazing graphics that I don't give a shit about.  

You'll also notice that my most loved system is the SNES.  

But the N64 Nintendo games feel almost the same as the Wii ones. Ever since Nintendo debuted many of their franchises in 3D, they have seen little change. Metroid Prime 3 is no different then 1, Super Mario Galaxy is almost the same concept as Super Mario 64, Zelda Twilight Princess is nearly identical with game mechanics as Ocarina of Time, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and Mario Party, they are all immitations of N64 (or GCN for Metroid) titles.

I disagree with you about game controls, GCN Nintendo titles felt dumbed down, and SNES is fun as hell, but 2D, so I can't compare controls. Super Mario RPG controls, however, compared to Super Mario 64 are pretty poor.

Oh man you are like in bizarro land. I never had issues with Camera angles for N64 games. PS1 games year, but not N64. Polish and content lacking? Mario Party has gone to shit after N64, Mario Kart 64 only recently is beaten in content (not quality IMO though), Skyward Sword is no longer then Ocarina of Time, and gets many of its gameplay mechanics from, and I'm sorry, but the gameplay in Smash Bros hasn't changed, there is just more content.

Controls, Gameplay, content and depth were not sacrificed. Gamecube they were sacrificed. Mario Kart, Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Party 4-7, and Zelda (Wind Waker) all went down in value because Nintendo wanted to make them visually appealing and take the franchises is ridiculous directions.

You and I......we have complete opposite opinions about Nintendo. for 3D I feel only Wii exclusives are comparable to the quality of the N64 games, and even then, I'd much rather play Mario Kart on N64 then Wii, and I still do. I mean the Wii Mario Kart doesn;t even have 2 player Grand Prix mode. How am I suppose to unlock content? By Myself? Who plays Mario Kart alone?

Also BTW, SNES is my favorite system too. Best quality titles on this system (but not the mainstream titles, never liked 2D Mario or Zelda on SNES). However I don't have too many SNES games on my list, but they are high up.



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