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Seece said

No they're not, I have all the financial data in front of me so don't patronise me. They lost 4.2B on the OX, then 3.2B on the Xbox, since they've been profiting they've made 3B profit, their total is 4.35B in the red, that's 6 months before the OX even released.

they lost close to $9.5billion and then made profit and brought it down to $6.7billion

No it didn't 

yes it did

as you were trying to imply that MS's top executives couldn't b wrong and they have been wrong again and again

balmer predictions have been so wrong over the years


They're not wrong though, they're right, Sony shipping large amonts doesn't prove they're wrong, they just ship a lot to asian , latin american ect countries

yeah but VGC doesn't track well there so we can't know if SONY is over shipping by VGC's figures or low shipping by high demand in those areas




Here they're not saying they'll use shipments as that measure as to outselling Sony, but sold to consumer.

we have no way of knowing if they are completely true as companies  play with their data to confuse people about high shipment or high shipments

We'll know, if Microsoft ship above 1.3M more than Sony this Q(which is what my prediction is roughly) then they've shipped 400k more than Sony for the year, meaning they're ahead.

they outship or outsell

it doesn't matter to this thread

only the gap btw their numbers doe