Predictions: PS3 vs 360 sales gap after holdiays

[Seece]

snakenobi said:

Seece said:

all these corporations are nuts

SONY lost $7b on PS3 and MS had a lose of $9.5b on the XBOX project(now to $6.5 thanks to 360 profits)

Wrong, nowhere near that amount. 

and if you see ballmer's thinking with iPHONE bet back in 2007,he was very much wrong and they have made other wrong decisions too

so asking such questions where  the company's profits make them seem very clever and people go by this and forget the company's blunders which can be seen in MS's KIN,ZUNE and SONY's PS3 after PS2 success

it happens with all fat ass greedy corporations with buisness heads which don't know or feel that much about the product and just go with market trends


That has nothing to do with what I said.

also we have seen this again and again in NPD and VGC and other tracking services that they come with big number but when official numbers come out its a different story as those trackers either don't have full detail of everywhere aka NPD not covering Americas or europe trackers not covering EMEAA so people forget that

and as we have seen that VGC adjusts its number big time

I was attributing NPD to the U.S, nowhere else, so my comment in that regard was fine. 

I expect the VGC sales to be almost exactly the same as well.

Nov NPD should be the telltale as to whether they're succeeding with being #1 though, as if they announce they're 'on track to be #1' with only 3 weeks to go before the end of the year it's almost a dead cert. If they go quiet then it looks like they're not doing well. By then we'll be into Dec though and VGC should be giving us a good idea on how sales are going.

So i have take ur predictions as follows:

VGC gap: 2.7m(the current gap which you said to agree with)

official gap: 3.4m

No, both 3.4m.

i have clearly stated in the OP what predictions i am looking for

official numbers : what sony and ms will disclose at the end of JAN as of DEC 2011

VGC numbers: VGC adjusted numbers which vgc puts out after official numbers come out

 

please don't play with that thing where MS or SONY say their shipments are sales to consumer not shipments,that based on company however they manage or distort their sales by supressing shipment or increasing them.

Again, that isn't even what I said. I said they've said in terms of beating PS3 this year they're talking about Sold to consumer, not shipments. Here's the quote.

Eurogamer: So when you say number one you mean sales?

Chris Lewis: I mean purely install base with consumers. We don't count units unless they're actually out there and installed. This isn't shipments. This isn't revenue. This is install base of consoles.

They know the difference between shipments and sold to consumers (last year up to end of december they used sold to consumer with Kinect which was dead in line with the site, then in late January they used shipments, for that they're known to use both sets of numbers, but they're NOT the same.)

Here they're not saying they'll use shipments as that measure as to outselling Sony, but sold to consumer.

 

if you have objections to the above number,please tell me and i will remove them or change them