Reggie comments on new consoles, criticizes Move/Kinect for lack of games.

[Michael-5]

o_O.Q said:

Michael-5 said:

 

I only read reviews from GT, IGN, and VGC, and lately I only trust GT and VGC, but GT and IGN both said Move felt like an add on.

I played Killzone with the Move controller, but I don't own a Move controller, so admittingly it wasn't that long. However from the 30 minutes or so I did play with it, I agree with GT, it's not fun, and the game plays much better with a controller. It's very hard to aim and focus with the Move controler, unlike Metroid Prime, or Dead Space Extraction, it doesn't feel right with the Move controller (Metroid Prime with Wii mote duh). It's just so damn hard to aim at a head while moving.

Maybe they patched it when you played? I played on a game which hadn't seen updates, well not essential ones.

For Uncharted, GT claimed it was average, and I never said IGN said it was bad. I mixed up those reviews because I watched them one after another and I admitted to being wrong back in that thread, so why you bring this up is of no importance (just want to demean me). I felt it was average, nothing special, never said bad, and never claimed the review said it was bad. GT said that they over do rewards, which can get annoying, but it wasn't necessarily a bad thing because it always made you feel like you progressed, even on bad games.

As for MUGEN calling Joel ignorant, nothing Joel said made him ignorant. He was right that Wii has more exclusive software, better exclusive software too, then Move and Kinect, but directly comparing a peripheral to a console is unfair, not ignorant though.

As for Killzone, I never tried to make anyone accept that. I always said I felt Killzone 3 was unbalanced, and MUGEN went on a rage because he just couldn't agree. Killzone 3 is a great game, I still like the MP, it's just not up to par to CoD or others if you ask me, but everyone has their preference. I never try to force my opinion onto others, look into the Forza/GT5 debate, I always tried to get people to accept that they are both good sims, and never tried to get others to agree with me that Forza 4 is a better sim.

As for inventions, what's le stick? Isn't the Power glove a NES peripheral, which is Nintendo again? As for those innovations you mentioned, I didn't claim Nintendo makes all the innovations in gaming, but right now I am claiming it typically brings in the big ones. MS brought in online gaming, the home button, achievements, etc. Sony brought Dual analog, memory cards, pressure sensitive buttons, and I'm sure other things too. As for triggers.... I honestly dunno who brought that first.

"but GT and IGN both said Move felt like an add on."

no heres what ign said exactly "The Move controls are functional but in no way superior or better than an analog controller"

and after watching the gametrailers review they basically said that aiming and moving work well but some aspects like waggling to reload take a while to nail...

"Slow reaction speeds, hard to aim at targets, and yea...just read some reviews" what you posted doesn't even match up with what the more negative reviews have said

 

"For Uncharted, GT claimed it was average"

no just watched the review and yes the reviewer was put off by some aspects like the amount of shots required to down down opponenets and also a chaotic feeling he got from the game at times but concluded by saying it can be an acquired taste but once you learn its intricacies its easy to love it for what it is and get hooked

for uncharted here was an example of pezus calling you out on what you said

""IGN said the campaign was short (yes they did say short) at about 8 hours, not a dozen. Stop plain out lying."

False, they never said that. DID YOU READ THE REVIEW? I'm being serious here, because it honestly looks like you didn't.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4280569

 

and heres where i called you out

 

"MP in UC3 is nothing more then average, and hurts the game. The reviewer himself said so"

you have a quote for that? because i don't remember seeing anything like that in  the review... 

edit : i took the liberty of checking myself heres what the reviewer actually said 

"Multiplayer is deep as well as rewarding and will keep you coming back."

so i guess my question would have to be how does that correlate to what you said?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4279856

 

" never tried to get others to agree with me that Forza 4 is a better sim."

actually no at first you tried to convince others that forza was the better sim then you pulled back when others told you why they disagreed but thats not really relevant here anyway

 

functional isn't necessarily good, GT wasn't as favorable.

GT on Killzone "In the end however the entire campaign does support the move, though the results are mixed. Aiming and movement work well, and waggling to melee makes sense, but the snap aim and twist motion for reloading take a while to nail"

I said aiming was difficult, and GT does say snap aim is difficult to nail. I said the analog controller is better then the move, the only difference from me and IGN was that I said much better. What I said in the end is no different from the GT and IGN reviews. Do I need to defend my claims to this degree on everything I say thats the slightest bit negative towards a PS3 exclusive? If I did this for Halo, no one would care...geez.

As for Uncharted 3... It's shorter then Uncharted 2. Where is this comming from? I wasn't wrong about it being 8 hours long. GT said "split up into 20 plus chapters you'll reach the zenith in 8 hours." For UC2 they said the game was 10 hours.

For your comment on Uncharted 3. GT said "Co-op Arena is uncharteds takes on Hoarde play......It's lack of support object makes it feel a bit dated", "No matter which mode you choose, or weather your playing with or against friends, their have been many changes to the overall framework.............(lists stuff).............but many of these features it's a better case of better late then never", "Once you head online you'll find that a full clip of an asssult rifle isn't enough to get the job done, you'll steal other peoples kills as much as they steal yours and it results in the whole thing fealing randomly chaotic and times. The newly only exasterbates the issue by making it more difficult to talk foes............the overall vibe to the multiplayer can be an aquired taste, but once you learn its intracasies it's easy to love it for what it is and get hooked"

This is enough to validate my opinion on multiplayer. Nowhere do they say it's better then average, and it's full of flaws. In that thread Osama was pushing that the game is flaw less, and that one one of my complaints with IGN's score. MP is full of flaws, and nothing special. Unique, but not special, and GT only ever said it was unique, never particularly good. They only said "The campaign is short, but the multiplayer makes it worth the asking price." I interpret that as it's not bad.

Now this is unrelated to the thread. MUGEN pointed out that I don;t agree with him on KZ3, and he wants people to think that game is flawless too, but it isn't and neither is UC3. I shouldn't be heckled at for claiming such things, people do it all the time for 360 and Wii exclusives, why is PS3 getting so much damn forum support? Are these games not fun enough to keep more PS3 fans on forums, or like someone once said to me "I just gave up on VGC forums because people don't know what they are talking about, and will fight for one console without playing the games on others." I at least have played them, and I say bad things about games on all consoles.

Nice to know someone is keeping track of my comments. I'll be sure to quote reiews word for word from now on when I talk about PS3 games. geez. I'm a fan of Uncharted too, but some of the fans on this site really

As for Forza 4. It's a lot better then GT5, and I thought people would agree, but a lot of people (who haven't played Forza 4) were absolutly certain that GT5 was better, so I didn't try to force my opinion, I know it would have gotten no where. Either way, that thread, just an example of how I don't force my opinion, I saw other people had a different opinion, and I never once called them ignorant, or insulted them.

Just was telling MUGEN to bug off with the insults. Not needed in this forum.

MUGEN - You really need to learn how to talk to people better. On forums it's no big deal, but people in the real world won't tolerate you if your so sour all the time. People will disagree with you, you don't need to insult them just because they do. If you want to avoid me, don't end comments insulting me, that's not a nice way at all to talk to others.

If you insult others for no reason, I will be there to tell you to bug off, deal with it. I don't like agressors.